According to Dan Rafael:
• Victor Ortiz, who was sensational in destroying Mike Arnaoutis on Saturday night on HBO, likely will be back May 2 on the Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao HBO PPV undercard. However, I am not all that psyched about one of the proposed opponents, Steve Forbes. Sure, he's a durable fighter and a hell of a nice guy, but come on. That's not a fight that will excite anyone. The undercard of such a big show should be better. Golden Boy and Top Rank, which inflicted one of the worst pay-per-view undercards upon us in December (under Pacquiao-Oscar De La Hoya) owe us fights that HBO would buy for live HBO, especially since the promoters want our $50 in the worst way.
Personally, I like this match. He's a solid step up in class and is as durable as they come, meaning we would probably get to see Ortiz fight more than a couple rounds.
I think forbes vs Ortiz is a good matchup, but i'd rather see it as a BAD and not a PPV undercard, however, its probably the best undercard they'd possibly give us. I personally would like to see Agustus on the Undercard again... Ortiz VS Agustus? (nevermind that'd be an aweful match-up) Honestly i'd like to see ortiz go some rounds so Forbes is good enough, but it'd be nice to see something better on PPV
Ortiz's stock only goes up if he KOs forbes. I prefer a fight against torres over forbes, but forbes is servicable, but not on ppv i suppose.
ortiz will ko .... forbes & torres!!
BOTH!!!
waaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr VICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:boxing:
50k VICIOUS Ko forbes whos in??
i actually don't think this fight does anything for ortiz. i'd like to see him step in there with a more recent former title holder, then challenge for a belt. if he beats forbes, which i think we all believe he will, then he's just showing us what we already know. forbes has shown, especially in recent fights, that when the fight gets brought to him he's willing to lose competitively and protect his never-been-down streak.
i don't think victor's stock goes up with a win over forbes.
Ortiz's stock only goes up if he KOs forbes. I prefer a fight against torres over forbes, but forbes is servicable, but not on ppv i suppose.
i actually don't think this fight does anything for ortiz. i'd like to see him step in there with a more recent former title holder, then challenge for a belt. if he beats forbes, which i think we all believe he will, then he's just showing us what we already know. forbes has shown, especially in recent fights, that when the fight gets brought to him he's willing to lose competitively and protect his never-been-down streak.
i don't think victor's stock goes up with a win over forbes.
ORTIZ IS A GOOD FIGHTER WITH FUTURE. BUT IF HE FOLLOWS dlh's FOOT STEPS, HE'LL BE ANOTHER FIGHTER THAT MADE MILLIONS IN THE GAME, BUT NEVER ESTABLISHED ANY B*LLS IN THE SPORT!!! 100X35...:boxing:
Oscar De La Hoya fought everybody, bro. I dont know what your talking about.
Hernandez
Chavez
Whitaker
Camacho
Quartey
Trinidad
Mosley
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Thats a pretty solid resume, buddy.
How many times do we need to see Forbes as the opponent. I'm tired of it. Give us a better fight. This undercard is already shaping up to be shitty.
2 pound did make it the distance with Oscar above WW, and just gave Berto a run at WW. Ortiz is still young, as close to ready as he might be for the elite he isnt quite there yet. Forbes will probably take him the distance, and win a few rounds, thats the sort of fight Victor needs at this stage in his career.
Its not the most exciting idea possible, but you have to look at it from his handlers perspective. And hell, it would be nice to see him fight 12 rounds against somebody fighting back.
I don't see why you guys think this will be any sort of test. Arnaoutis is a better fighter than 2LB at this point. The only thing this will do is potentially force Ortiz to go rounds since Forbes can't seem to be put in trouble. I don't have a problem with the match though. Arnaoutis also beat Torres, regardless of what those scores say, and is also a step down. There are a lot of upper-middling fighters at 140 and not so many special ones. The division is deep but light at the top. They are just going to have to run through these guys for Ortiz until there is enough public pressure to get him a fight on the Hatton/Pacquiao/Campbell level.
I think a fascinating matchup would be with Juan Urango for what it is worth. Urango might be able to catch him, though I doubt it. Ortiz is special.
According to Dan Rafael:
Personally, I like this match. He's a solid step up in class and is as durable as they come, meaning we would probably get to see Ortiz fight more than a couple rounds.
forbes isnt a bad fight, but for a ppv event, he should be fighting someone like torres
Forbes is a decent fighter, pretty good defense, not so good offense. Very durable, getting hit by de la hoya a 151 and Berto at 147 should give him confidence in taking Ortiz' punches. I don't like this fight for Stevie though. I think Mighty Mike was brought in to give Ortiz some rounds but it didn't happen like that so they are looking for someone else to do that.Ortiz vs Torres would be a badass fight though.
you words right out of my mouth man..from 140 to 155..that's a sign that Ortiz won't be there very long..Kinda reminds me of Cotto's 140 days..
Exactly, lets just hope he doesn't run into Margarito anytime soon. :D
Ortiz weighed in at 155lbs on fight night. He won't be at lightwelter for long.
He'll be fighting at welterweight in a few years.
you words right out of my mouth man..from 140 to 155..that's a sign that Ortiz won't be there very long..Kinda reminds me of Cotto's 140 days..
Oscar and Berto have something going for them, however, that Ortiz doesn't have.
They weighed in at 147 or more.
He still has a chance at looking impressive. Like I said, if this opened up the show, I wouldn't be too mad.
Ortiz weighed in at 155lbs on fight night. He won't be at lightwelter for long.
He'll be fighting at welterweight in a few years.