It is true, Froch is incredibly overrated on here. He really struggled with Pascal, a guy Taylor would destroy.
Froch ain't on Taylor's level. THis fight is not at all close.
i think the main question to ponder here is how good is taylors chin if its as good as i think it is i think he will coast to a UD. i see froch tagging him but if his chin is sound then taylor will be able to survive the assault and come back to his quicker hands and better reflexes.
if he is tired however and gets caught and gets caught flush like he was vs pavlik then its lights out. froch is a much bigger puncher than pavlik and has the ability to end it with one punch. but i see jermain coming in good condition and coming in to fight, he did the 12 rounds with lacy wihtout any problems so the extra eight at 168 shouldn't affect him.
froch does have a good jab, its very misleading, and he can catch you when you think you're out of range, but he shoots from the waistline and is so slow it is unreal. he will be very easy for jermain to counter and i see taylor taking the UD.
i think taylor will try and look to fight i know it doesn't make sense but i think if he turn it into a fight he will find it alot easier to slip and counter the slower froch. vs jean pascal froch was very open because he throws wide punches and doesn't really group his shots very well.
since when was froch a bigger puncher than pavlik? he hasnt fought ANYBODY and struggled against a nobody.people r deluded
People ask who has Froch fought, but it's not his fault this is the first real bout he's got.
We simply don't know yet how good he is.
It's my suspicion that he will be able to step up to the challenge, and with Taylor's shaky stamina, take the fight.
I believe that Froch si the sort that can find a way to win, whereas Taylor is the sort that can find a way to lose... Froch has more of the "Devil" in him.
Just a gut feeling.
That's the key point innit, nobody knows how good the ****er is.
He gets tagged by good fighters and shit fighters alike, and appears to be carrying a brick for a chin. I think the most impressive thing he has done as a pro was take out Magee with an uppercut in round 11, anyway you slice it, he definetely has world-class power and is dangerous for a full 12.
But on the face of it, I can't pick him to beat Taylor, I know Taylor's good. Froch isn't an obviously worldclass fighter. Barry McGuigan thinks he's great and I hold alot of stock in what he says. He's interesting.
Jermaine Taylor is a level above Froch.
Froch doesn't really seem to have the many strings to his bow. He has a deadly uppercut and good chin. That's all that is obviously good. He might be a Margarito type though. Taylor is a superior boxer.
i thought otherwise but this guy raises some good points
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_auPJXUjg&eurl=http://gamblersadvisory.blogspot.com/2009_02_01_archive.html
That's OK, let everyone keep thinking otherwise.
I already have bets on Froch winning. I'll stick with it, cause I called it month ago. Could be wrong, but counting out Froch so easily is a big mistake.
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carl froch doesn't group his shots togther and so far has never faced someone as quick as taylor - if taylor can take frochs punch then he will win by 4/5 rounds
Froch= Worst defense in championship boxing. Taylor is going to embaress him.
At least Froch is not like the other so called champions in taking easy mandatories instead of fights that pit the best in the division. Froch has stated numerous times that he would fight anybody, it's not his fault he hasn't had the chance as others pull out or avoid his challenge.
All Froch haters are so bitter, and as soon as a meaningfull fight for him comes along, the bashing is endless. He may be the underdog in this fight, but at least he wants to fight the best. Considering it is his first title defense too. That takes balls.
Depends on which taylor shows up. If a lazy uninspired taylor comes in the ring, absolutely. But no way in hell Froch can beat taylor if he brings his A game.
this.
taylor when he's fully motivated is a very good fighter indeed, it's his fight to lose.
if he gives froch the chance he'll be there ready to take it.
Course he can, it's generally viewed as a close fight.
I agree on Froch's jab, that's what caused Taylor problems in the Pavlik fights Froch's not quite as tall as Kelly but has a slightly longer reach, which could cause problems again mixed with his power.
But Froch doesn't use his advantages that cleverly imo. Not that Pavlik does loads but he drills the issue home more once he gets going.
If Taylor fights confidently, switching it up and being creative he beats any version of Froch imo.
If he comes in at 90% which he probably will, and Froch's jab is just above average, we have a very close fight.
Entirely depends on those guys on the night.
As long as Froch respects Taylor, then yes he has a chance. Keeping his hands low is showing no respect to Taylor, and could find him in a lot of trouble as Jermain is a far better combo puncher. Even if Taylor's power does not affect Froch, he needs to show a tight guard and avoid getting hit unneccesarily.
Jabbing through a good defense is the catalyst to winning this fight for both fighters, which see's Taylor the favourite. I'm glad Carl has finally nailed a world class opponent, but he needs bring his A game which i don't believe we have seen yet.
Although Taylor is favourite to win, don't for one second believe this will be a breeze. There is a reason this fight has taken so long to be signed, that is because nobody really knows what Froch is capable of against World class opposition.
He can beat him, but I don't think he will. Taylor can't afford to lose. If Taylor comes in completely prepared and focused, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone in that division who can take it to him.
Of course he can. I don't think it'll happen, but he can do it.
Samurai is right about the jab; if Carl can use his jab effectively for the entire fight, he might give Taylor a lot of problems, as he has had issues with the jab in the past (Wright, Pavlik).
OTOH in the 2nd Pavlik fight, Taylor adjusted quite well and began landing counter rights over Kelly's jab; I can see this happening against Froch as well, especially since Carl throws his jab from the waist and leaves himself wide open for the right hook.
So IMO a good jab alone doesn't give Carl the win, but it gives him his best shot at it. If he doesn't use his jab, his only path to victory is a lucky KO whilst being way behind on the cards.
I know you are a big Taylor fan, and I am a big Froch fan. Its refreshing to see two boxers make a potentially dangerous fight for each of them.
It is certainly the case that when Carl uses his jab he is a much better fighter than when he doesn't. Against Pascal, Carl was dominating the mid rounds behind his jab, but when he abandoned it he looked vulnerable. The low left hand is something I just can't see Carl getting away with against Jermain. I know he has fought his whole career with that style but he must bring it up against Taylor otherwise he will be eating flush right hands all fight.
This is going to be a terrific fight and i'm gutted I can't make it.
Depends on which taylor shows up. If a lazy uninspired taylor comes in the ring, absolutely. But no way in hell Froch can beat taylor if he brings his A game.
I think that pretty much sums it up.
I have never really been inspired or impressed by Taylor. OK he is obviously a good fighter but IMO opinion lacks something in ambition and heart and holds out for a win rather than going for the victory.
Froch is also a talented fighter but is untested and I feel we will either see Froch come of age (in boxing terms) or lose in his first real test.
I pick Froch as I believe more is to come from him whilst we have probably seen the best of Taylor.
After watching the Froch-Pascal fight I wasn't very impressed with him. He was getting tagged a lot and I do believe Jermain is a fairly big step up from Pascal so I think Jermain should win by decision or late stoppage.