As per Dan Rafael in the chat he is currently hosting. Apparently he talked to both sides today and it has fallen apart. I have no idea over what. Where does that leave Wlad? In Europe against Dimentreko?
I'm always as unbiased as is possible. I've been hard on Haye, Witter and Malignaggi in the past, only because I don't like fighters who not only run their mouth's (I've no problems with that), but openly disrespect/insult the current Champion when they've accomplished far less than said Champion. It's a class thing for me and all fighters should show some respect for a Champion.
When Haye jumped in Wlad's face threatening him at the mall in London a year ago he should have known he's going to have to get shafted in negotiations without any leverage if he really wants a title shot straight away with Wlad. If Haye wants leverage in negotiations then he'll have to fight until he becomes a mandatory for a title.
Of course you are biase and you just said it yourself, If a boxer talks then you dont like it why??? Talking to get some attention is part and parcel of boxing not everybody would be like Wlad (Conservative) and when you're the champ you dont need to talk/call people out, Thats the job of the challenger.
Dont you think Haye meeting Wlad in a shopping mall is a set up by both camp??? Some of you "Boxing fans" are not really fans of boxing to be honest, If your Hero (Wlad) could set up a confrontational meeting to hype up a fight with Haye why do people like you seem to have a problem with it?
this fight will happen!
apparently the klitchkos insisted on a 3 rematch clause in the contract!!!!!!
Why is that a problem? Haye gets lucky and he gets 3 fight opportunities with the biggest paydays at HW.
So you suspect because he has a big mouth??? Its difficult to take someone like you seriously to be honest, It takes 2 to tango in negiotating for a boxing match. Wlad isnt stupid if he fights Haye then he makes more money and he gets known more in the UK because of Haye's "Big" mouth.
If he fight arreola he makes more money than fighting Dimi who would bring him less pay for the risk involve.
Just dont bash one fighter for a fight not happening be unbiase for once.
I'm always as unbiased as is possible. I've been hard on Haye, Witter and Malignaggi in the past, only because I don't like fighters who not only run their mouth's (I've no problems with that), but openly disrespect/insult the current Champion when they've accomplished far less than said Champion. It's a class thing for me and all fighters should show some respect for a Champion.
When Haye jumped in Wlad's face threatening him at the mall in London a year ago he should have known he's going to have to get shafted in negotiations without any leverage if he really wants a title shot straight away with Wlad. If Haye wants leverage in negotiations then he'll have to fight until he becomes a mandatory for a title.
I have not seen any news items on the internet that this fight is officially off, in fact I have seen nothing on this fight for a few days I bet there will be rumours that it will back on again tomorrow until I hear anything official I am not going to comment any more. The last news was that the contract had finalized and they were just waiting to see if the fight was going to take place in Germany or England there didn’t seem to be anything to block the deal so lets see.
Its all just rumours until there is an official word, I don’t see there being any better fight for either so I’m sure they will get it sorted out.
David Haye is gay. I'm sick of him. He's just like Hatton back in 05-06 talking about fighting Mayweather and never going through with it. They're all the same.
Who am I bashing?
Haye's mouth got him a chance to fight for a title without earning it. This fight should be easy to make since every other Wlad fight has been, that's why I suspect Haye is the one being difficult...
So you suspect because he has a big mouth??? Its difficult to take someone like you seriously to be honest, It takes 2 to tango in negiotating for a boxing match. Wlad isnt stupid if he fights Haye then he makes more money and he gets known more in the UK because of Haye's "Big" mouth.
If he fight arreola he makes more money than fighting Dimi who would bring him less pay for the risk involve.
Just dont bash one fighter for a fight not happening be unbiase for once.
How would you know who is been reasonable or not in negiotating for a fight?? You seem to "Support" some certain british fighters then bash the rest..without any concrete evidence.
Who am I bashing?
Haye's mouth got him a chance to fight for a title without earning it. This fight should be easy to make since every other Wlad fight has been, that's why I suspect Haye is the one being difficult...
Look at you two kicking off like you've read a definitive breakdown of what's happened, casting judgement mostly based on speculation.
Haye spent months and months chasing and calling out Wladimir, you really think he'd pull out over nothing? He agreed to a rematch clause whereby by the 3rd rematch with a Klitschko he'd have to drop his belts.
Vital and Wlad said they'd face Haye in 09.
Vitali pulled out.
Wlad said he wanted the fight in the UK, then all of a sudden won't fight in the UK or US, only Germany.
Yet on a whim of gossip of it being off due to Haye not wanting to fight in Germany, without any other detail, your acting like he's the bad guy in all this?
Haye should take whatever is offered since it's an "easy" win for him. Wlad is the Champion and is willing to let Haye jump to the front of the bus without earning his title shot. If Haye wins like he says he's going to then he gets to call the shots.
Have you ever actually seen Dimitrenko, Boytsov, or Povetkin? They are exciting talented heavyweights.
Here's Boytsov's latest fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3nU9w-yHg&feature=related
And a highlights video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jqVn_Dd5bU
And Dimitrenko:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiCSprms3yc
I appreciate you taking the time and trying to make these guys more recognized by posting these videos, but I'm sticking to my guns. This division is trash. I saw Povetkin against Chambers, and it was more what Chambers wouldn't do than what Povetkin did do. To call Povetkin an exciting heavyweight is the most you can say about him, but he's no world beater and looked pretty average to me.
What is the sports media in Europe reporting about Wladimir, BattlingNelson?
Any word as to whether he'll be starting discussions with Dimitrenko's management?
I haven't found anything in the german press. No even that the Haye fight allegedly should be off.
It is a rather poor looking list, GT. I am only interested in seeing either K brother smash Valuev. That would make my day. Hopefully it happens.
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If hes not fighting Haye then he should fight a plumber,taxi driver,electrician,Mechanic,Fire fighter, Boxingscene forum member or any of the above.
Well it might as well be because it will be just another boring arse fight if its not Haye, I won't be interested in paying for any of his fights if its not against Haye.
oh my God that list is the most depressing thing I think I've ever seen. heavyweight boxing has been dead for years. no need to remind us by making lists like that