I've heard this phrase used occasionally in boxing but am not sure the specifics of it. Is it when a trainer will tape a fighter's glove so that the padding is removed from the knuckle area? Is this correct? Do boxing commissions allow this practice? Does anyone have any first hand experience? Discuss please...
If you are even moderately learned in boxing you would know that padding your knuckles is beneficial to the puncher and less padding hurts the puncher more than the recipient. The reason I say this is because you make it sound like some sort of advantage.
I guess Panama Lewis doesn't know **** about boxing then.
Except it's in the wrong forum and there will be flaming without question. There was flaming since page 1. :lol1:
If you are even moderately learned in boxing you would know that padding your knuckles is beneficial to the puncher and less padding hurts the puncher more than the recipient. The reason I say this is because you make it sound like some sort of advantage.
It's about superficial/physical damage from my understanding. The thing is your wrist/hand is so hard and compact that you're not in much bigger danger of injuring your hand but you can add a little more snap to your punches and have a better chance of causing cuts and swelling/bruising. Its not just on your head, think about the forearms, ribs, etc as they're hit with whats closer to bone than with a normally wrapped and gloved hand. Ive not myself questionably wrapped my hands but i have been shown the difference with having a typical wrapping/taping etc and one with improper use of tape and lacing and it feels like a f ucking hammer.
*BUMP*
thought everyone on NSB could take a break from flaming each other and learn something about the game we all love and not some fighter.
Except it's in the wrong forum and there will be flaming without question. There was flaming since page 1. :lol1:
Nah it's more than that, it's trying to push the padding away from the knuckles.
If you are even moderately learned in boxing you would know that padding your knuckles is beneficial to the puncher and less padding hurts the puncher more than the recipient. The reason I say this is because you make it sound like some sort of advantage.
So because it is more common than loading your wraps it's bending of the rules?
If it's illegal it's cheating imo.
I disagree. To be cheating in my book it must give you a sizeable advantage. What significant advantage does this give you?
So is it high tape or what ice and rockin were talking about?
MAB basically taped his entire gloves
http://inboxingwetrust.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/marco-antonio-barrera211.jpg
I believe it's what Ice and Rockin are talking about. Users of said skinning also have the tape rolled before being put through the fingers sometimes. Honestly if the opposing trainer is letting it go then people will keep doing it. This is like the Cotto vs Pac and Pac vs Marg where Roach didnt let Cotto do it yet Manny does it.
Those MAB wraps were ridiculous btw lol. Looking like he has arm warmers on
Anyway... Speaking of hand wraps..anyone remember Danny Green's vs Roy Jones? There was a pic with him and his girl and those wraps looked fishy as hell from what I remember.
Cotto does that.
Basically, the gloves are taped really high - packing in the foam in the gloves (if you will)
http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/11/11/alg_cotto-mosley.jpg
notice how the tape covers the logo on cotto's gloves VS mosley's gloves.
that's skinning.
this practice also displaces some of the weight from the end of the glove, allowing you to move your hands faster.
Its just getting your knuckles as close to the leather as possible.
Mike used to do it too..
Nah it's more than that, it's trying to push the padding away from the knuckles.
these types of threads are gems....these are what i look for in forums
insightful, original, free of flame..exchanging of knowledge...and you learn new things
I agree.
Greek K t/s.
well, people must be skinning the foam gloves for nothing because they always do that in the dressing room before fights...it gives a much better grip, feels firmer around the wrist etc etc...I have fought in reyes numerous times and even though they used this method it NEVER physically moved the hair away from the knuckles...it just made the whole fist and wrist feel more secure...
yeah, cotto is skinning his gloves there, it's a cheap move for an advantage, i don't know why the officials even sign off on the wrapping or taping of the gloves when they're like that? or even the other fighters peoples not saying anything?
lots of fighters do it, some more subtle than others, i do think it's cheating, it certainly makes the gloves harder, but it is something that is easily spotted, so each time you see a fighter with it, either the officials are incompetent and not doing their jobs or they're paid off to not notice or say anything, because it's clearly illegal and easy as hell to notice, so it's not like it's something that can hide, the only thing that separates the degree of if its effectiveness is how high the tape is up on the glove............ but skinning is nothing compared to loaded gloves, or drugging a fighter. from what i've seen, usually guys get cut as a result of skinned gloves......
This goes to show that Floyd > Cotto all day and everyday.
ALSO I do not see it moving the padding...they arent going to let u do that...the padding is almost always foam now, not horse hair anymore, you cant move it away from the knuckles...it just makes for a firmer grip...
not true
Reyes and the Everlast MX both have a combination of horse hair and padding.
and while I respect your opinion Ice this is what they are referring to
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2281844713_30c2e269d7.jpg
see how high Barrera has the tape? Its essentially a trainer trying to pull down the back end of the glove in an effort to stretch the glove back, skinning it by the use of lacing in a certain and then using tape to pull it down as hard as they can.
there are no actual rules against it and essentially it's up to the commission officials interpetation of what they think is legal
No, it's a lacing method not a tape method. Anyone here who boxes know.
You tie the gloves in a way where you are pulling the padding on the glove back,
which makes the glove harder. the tape just insures the lacing doesn't come loose