pure boxing ability, floyd jr vs ivan calderon

Mayweather is a much more verstile fighter, in some ways Calderon could be close but overall he really is not. Calderon is a damn good fighter at what he does though.

never mind the power and the size, who do u think is better? I've had this conversation a few times; I think its a toss up kid. Ivan has been my favorite since my first amateur fight, have seen him air dudes out on some aggressive shit and just make guys look stupid. On the other hand I've seen Floyd do the same thing. I think Floyd may be better at standing in front of a fighter and not getting hit while Calderon is the best at using the jab & boxing your ass around the whole ring all night. That is a true boxing fans fantasy fight dream come true though. Great post.:boxing:

Ivan Calderon is an underrated boxer I have to admit but he doesn't have it anymore. Thing is, Mayweather is much better on the inside/ defensively. So I really don't see how this is up for debate, no offense.

A couple o sparring sessions with a guy who is 5-9, the other 5-10 1/2 and both weights more than 160, while him being 5-0 and weighting like 115-118 pounds. Which makes you look even more ignoatrnt than you usually do. Mosley or Delahoya would deecapatate Calderon if they chose too. Get it right nationalistic boy. get your shit together pink boy Which makes you look even more ignorant than you usually do. You do know what a sparring session is don't you? You know, big gloves, headgear? Mosley or Delahoya would decapitate Calderon if they chose too. Get it right, nationalistic boy.

Calderon also schooled the shit out of DLH and Mosley back in 2007. The ones who saw the sparring sessions said Mosley was looing really retarded and was getting poped with straight left hand lie crazy. Oscar did much better ecause he didnt went affter Calderon. A sparring session...yeah....Ok....

Calderon also schooled the shit out of DLH and Mosley back in 2007. The ones who saw the sparring sessions said Mosley was looing really retarded and was getting poped with straight left hand lie crazy. Oscar did much better ecause he didnt went affter Calderon. A sparring session...yeah....right.

i have said they're only 2 complete fighters in boxing and floyd and ivan are them---floyd is more technically sound than ivan though but in a methodcial way---what ivan does is ususally against bigger men--but floyd has fought at more weight classes so it's hard to compare sizes like this---and someone should just post a video of floyd vs a guy like tony pep who was taller than him and had a longer reach and see how technically gifted floyd is---ivan is nasty with his skills and i like his stance and he moves side to side like floyd does also--but floyd blocks punches better and throws counters a bit better---you could also put floyd against gatti to see some more combos from floyd and counters with his left hook---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8r61s7BFYQ Its not that impossible that Calderon could battle Mayweather. Calderon has beaten a 5'6 guy in Leyva. Based on how he has beaten bigger men, and how one sided his fights with people near his size are, Im gonnago with Calderon.

Cant believe Cats get all sensitive on a internet forum, lol!!!! Look men, stop being so sensitive this is the internet!! Now, to the topic. look at the video, that is on page 3, thats Calderon vs Dieppa(Foremer Lineal 108 Champ). You will see how good Calderon can be, he places his punches so perfectly that even though he is pillow fisted, h e hurts his opponents!!! I aint sensitive brah, just don't feel like all that silly talk this morning. I'm going to check it out fam.

See how I know you are a flomo. I just threw a stupid post to see how you react and boom, butthurt much? lol anyways They are about the same level, but Calderon is 5 feet and like 115 pounds max, thats why I take him. Calderon do somethings better than Floyd and Floyd do somethings better than Calderon. By the way no needs to get all sensitive here!! you know I'm a flomo? man its not even cool to talk to a guy who keep talking about "flomo" and "butthurt". real talk. :tragedy:

Yes sir!!!!! You have probably never seen Calderon and are shock, because you flomos are starting to look like Pactards only know about Floyd!! before I seen your reply I knew that you would talk that flomo garbage. I know more about boxing that just Mayweather so calm down dude. Its almost impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you because you can't control your emotions. I was asking a REAL QUESTION BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEEN ALOT OF CALDERON. I also asked if you were serious, because I haven't seen many known and respect boxing writers that have said that he has better defense and counter-punching that Mayweather. But I'm going to check him out and make my assessment from there. But calm down and get getting all defensive and sensitive because I asked a question about a PR boxer dude.

floyd mayweather

for me i give it to floyd but at the same time i have seen all of pbf fights and i havent seen all of calderons fights but what i have seen i give it to floyd

Calderon fights guys with 3-6 inches in height, 3-5 in reach and 15-20 pounds advantages in the ring. Calderon's Timming, defense, counterpunching and foot work is better than Floyds. Floyds Combinations, Power, leading and when he uses to do it (agression) is better. They are about even, but when you see Calderon clowning on guys twice his size is another thing!! you for real brah???

Calderon's style though perceived as precision is actually reckless because he is leaping in to land a quick flurry and this is what caused all of the head clashes. he's gotta do that sometimes bcoz he is almost always at a disadvantage in reach... and height... & he is quite old now...

bump... nevermind the resumes or the quality of foes... just pure technical boxing ability...

I don't know, Calderon is perfect at what he does, Mayweather does more. If Calderon had more power he'd fight more like Mayweather, if Mayweather had less power he'd fight more like Iron Boy. I haven't seen a Rican fighter so polished in ages, if ever. Even Benitez was more instinctive and less technical than Calderon.

What are Calderon's best attributes that make him the best pure boxer since Sweet Pea? Near flawless defense. Can fight with you inside, outside, or both at the same time. Flawless timing, if you even think of punching hes already got a punch headed your way. Incredible footwork, creative combinations, perfect use of angles. Look at him. Hes practically a freaking clone of Whitaker. Ivan Calderon is Pernell Whitaker, with less showboating, and less risk taking.

He doesn't have the skills Floyd has, like I said, the reason why he doesn't get hit is because he moves around the ring like Cory Spinks, I'm out...you on the other hand, simply, overate him...while I just told you, Calderon is one of the most underated fighters today LOL! You are too much. If you actually watched the video, you would see that he spent 90% of each rounds standing in front of his man hitting him every time he even thinks of punching. If moving was all that was required for great defense, Pauli Malignaggi would have the best defense on the planet, unfortunately, moving is not all that is required, and Pauli doesn't have the best defense in the world.

That is a bold statement! I'm not going to comment on Calderon yet, because I've only seen a few clips of him, but I've got a few of his fights downloading tonight, so I'll give you a heads up when I watch them tomorrow. :) Not only is he the best pure boxer since Pernell Whitaker, he has the best timing in the sport today. Better than Floyd, better than Marquez, better than anyone.