just decided to view the 2 greatest boxers ever and the best fantasy matchup fight ever, cant wait for fight night round 4 so i can Pick tyson and KO ali's ass.
-but na for real, i think joe frazier is a poor mans mike tyson, and he dropped ali and broke his jaw in thier 1st battle yes of course ali proved to be better then smokin joe in winning fight 2 and 3. but come On were talking mike tyson here, and No george foreman is not as crazy as tyson, thier punching power was about even foreman and tyson but come On look at tyson the guy would KO fools in 45-50 seconds in the first round every fight. it was amazing, i just dont think ali would be able to keep tyson off Him
just decided to view the 2 greatest boxers ever and the best fantasy matchup fight ever, cant wait for fight night round 4 so i can Pick tyson and KO ali's ass.
-but na for real, i think joe frazier is a poor mans mike tyson, and he dropped ali and broke his jaw in thier 1st battle yes of course ali proved to be better then smokin joe in winning fight 2 and 3. but come On were talking mike tyson here, and No george foreman is not as crazy as tyson, thier punching power was about even foreman and tyson but come On look at tyson the guy would KO fools in 45-50 seconds in the first round every fight. it was amazing, i just dont think ali would be able to keep tyson off Him
Two greatest boxer ever huh?
No - Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong
Best Fantasy Match ever huh?
No - Ray Robinson vs (Young/Prime) Henry Armstrong
Can't wait for Fight Night Round Four?
Yea, but I pray it isn't fail like 3 was. (WTF career mode?)
Tyson KO's Ali?
No - Prime for Prime other way around.
Joe Frazier a poor mans Tyson?
No, how dare you... .
Broke Ali's jaw in the first fight?
No - That was Ken Norton.
Ali proved he was better by winning 2 of 3.
Indeed, but those 3 fights where a f'n mazing fights. (Not saying you don't agree)
Tyson (skip some words) Foreman (Skipping on) Power about even(skip...)crazy as Tyson (???ear biting skipping) Tyson KO's everyone is 40-45 secs.
No
I just don't think Ali could keep Tyson off.
That your opinion which I respect, but likewise I respectfully disagree.
Where to begin.... . Tyson vs Ali,.... . Ali takes this 3 out of 3 fights. Frazier vs Tyson , ok it's possible we see another Foreman like win in Tyson favor but if the ref doesn't stop the fight Frazier comes back and Ko's Tyson. I got Frazier winning 2 out of 3 fights against Tyson.
I assume you only made this thread to talk about FN4, and not rly about Tyson ko'ing Ali .
That being in mind I'll stop ranting about Tyson, and state my opinions on FN4.
Yea I can't wait for buy this for the PS3, but I really didn't like FN3 (I still play FN2 alot more often). Maybe however EA learned a thing or two about not putting out a game every year of same type (outside the Maddens and ect).
I do see Tyson giving Ali a rough fight early on, but Ali had ridiculous stamina and durablitiy and was one of the most adaptable fighters ever.
Tyson would probebly catch Ali with his long range left hooks every once in a while, so he would win some rounds. but Tyson was not that great of a super close range fighter...in other words, if he got within clinching distance, he usually stopped punching, wheras Frazier in that position would start crankin up those left hooks and body shots at that range.
I think its possible Ali stops Tyson too. not that Tyson isnt durable...because the guy always was. and not that he didnt have heart either...until the end of his career, he could take beatings like a man and still keep in the fight, although he would still fall apart mentally and would have no gameplan.
but Ali ate up tired fighters, and its extremely likely that Tyson gets tired chasing after Ali frustratingly. Ali had a lot of mid-late round KOs, including his ones over Foreman, Lyle and Floyd Patterson.
Frazier was down in three fights, against George Foreman x2 and Oscar Bonavena when he was a novice.
I don't know where this myth of Frazier not having a good chin has come from.
u guys are fukking crazy, frazier vs tyson. man mike tyson would destroy Him.... wtf??? your just giving credit to these old ancestor fighters because they get credit . tyson is the greatest of all time i dun give a fukk what anyone says
Tyson is nowhere near the coveted "Greatest of All Time" title. That rests with Ray Robinson, forever and always. He's not even on the top 10 greatest Heavyweights of all time.
1.) Joe Louis
2.) Muhammad Ali
3.) Larry Holmes
4.) Jack Johnson
5.) Jack Dempsey
6.) George Foreman
7.) Joe Frazier
8.) Rocky Marciano
9.) Lennox Lewis
10.) Evander Holyfield
11.) Mike Tyson
Tyson at his best couldnt KO or even KD, Tucker, Green, Smith, Tillis.
No way in hell does he stop Ali.
Frazier could fight 15 rounds non stop, Tyson was much slower and esier to hit after 5.
I believe even the Ali who fought Frazier would beat Tyson.
u guys are fukking crazy, frazier vs tyson. man mike tyson would destroy Him.... wtf??? your just giving credit to these old ancestor fighters because they get credit . tyson is the greatest of all time i dun give a fukk what anyone says
Foreman and Shavers hit harder than Mike. And TBH I rather fight a prime Mike Tyson rather than the prime Foreman Ali knocked out when he was past it not to mention Foreman had a hell of a chin and never came close (other than the Lyle fight) to being being knocked out again. Ali would have handled Tyson rather easily. A domanant 8th round stoppage for Ali. Tyson just didn't have the heart Frazier did, and would not be able to take punishment.
Emm..................... No.
Ali in his prime would beat Tyson either by desicion or in the same way he beat George Foreman, the good old "rope the dope".
just decided to view the 2 greatest boxers ever and the best fantasy matchup fight ever, cant wait for fight night round 4 so i can Pick tyson and KO ali's ass.
-but na for real, i think joe frazier is a poor mans mike tyson, and he dropped ali and broke his jaw in thier 1st battle yes of course ali proved to be better then smokin joe in winning fight 2 and 3. but come On were talking mike tyson here, and No george foreman is not as crazy as tyson, thier punching power was about even foreman and tyson but come On look at tyson the guy would KO fools in 45-50 seconds in the first round every fight. it was amazing, i just dont think ali would be able to keep tyson off Him
Frazier was a "poor man's Tyson"? Get the hell out of here with that shit. Frazier was everything Tyson was not : Grounded, dedicated, hard working, and prideful. Not to mention his heart was 10X bigger than Tyson's ever was, and his left hook was equal in power to anything Mike had to dish out.
I like Mike, but better than Frazier he was not. Against Ali Mike would do terribly if he couldn't get Ali out within the first 4-5 rounds. And if Ali could take the best shots from the best punchers of his era, believe me, he'd take Tyson's as well.
Tyson was bigger
Faster
stronger
hit harder
Had more skill
Had more defence
Arguably better chin too
Was better in every single department
Tyson was only "bigger" if you mean weight. Height and reach wise, Frazier edges him.
Faster I'll give you.
Stronger? How?
Hit harder? You can't even prove this.
Had more defense? His defense was nearly a carbon copy of Joe's. Only instead of slipping punches with his head like Frazier would do, Tyson would bring his gloves up to cover his face. The bob and weave style is pretty similar.
Better chin? Possibly. Frazier did hit the mat quite a few times in his career.
Better in every single department? What about competition faced, time at the top, will to continue to fight no matter what, and all time legacy?
Oh Charlie, I didn't know if you were a joke before or not, but now I do!
Sure Tyson would KO Ali, if we're talking the Ali who lost to Holmes and Burbank while seriously ill. If we're talking prime Ali, then we're talking a beating for Tyson. I think Tyson struggles to get inside against a prime Ali, who keeps him at bay with fast one-two combinations all night.