Kessler vs. Larsen canceled

I like Hopkins a lot, he has a very good resume and seems willing to fight anyone, but how do you explain the fact that he accepted an offer to fight Joe in '02, then changed his mind the next day asking for double the amount. Forgive me if someone has made these points in the interim, but wasn't Calzaghe merely part of a prefabricated package of fights that Hopkins agreed to face, it wasn't necessarily him and Joe negotiating one on one in the classic sense. I might be wrong on this, but I seem to remember Hopkins mentioning this in a radio interview, that all 3 fights in the package were actually predetermined. Also, given the erratic & paranoid behavior of Hopkins throughout his career, I don't think I could call Hopkins turning his back on or suddenly wanting to renegotiate a "duck" as much as it is basically par for the course with him.

And Kessler is known in America as well?? Of course. Who doesnt know Kessler's name? The Calzaghe fight alone got him tons of name recognition. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

I think what jreck means is that pwill doesn't put asses in the seats anywhere at all and that he doesn't know why. Williams only fans are former Floyd huggers and Mayweather barley had any himself:boxing:

And Kessler is known in America as well?? I think what jreck means is that pwill doesn't put asses in the seats anywhere at all and that he doesn't know why.

And Kessler is known in America as well?? Kessler has been on HBO twice and both times he put up a great effort. He completely dominated Andrade on national TV.

Eubank had 2 weeks to make weight when he was planning to fight at 175 for WBC title. This is a known fact We know it's a fact that he was planning to fight at 175, but two weeks to drop 7 pounds... you honestly think that's a big problem for a pro fighter who was always used to making weight late? Damn, my girlfriend lost 4 pounds on some silly Nintendo Wii game in a few hours! LOL. ****ing excuses man. Wack. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Maybe because Williams is on the HBO rooster and would make sense money wise. You are full of excuses and bullshit:fing26:

:lol1::lol1: What so great about beating a weight drained way past it fighter. Eubank made the weight easily, he had weeks to do it, and it wasn't uncommon for Eubank to make weight very close to fight time anyway. He often did that. We've had this discussion before and you still are arguing the same unconvincing points. Neither man was in ideal circumstances, as both were preparing for a completely different fighter. JC was green going up a guy with vast amounts of experience. You don't think that's a good win? In my opinion Eubank was JC's best win. You're out of your mind. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Dawson wanted fight at 175. Not 168 or catchweight. Sometimes you just make my mind go numb flawless. I give up.

Dawson wanted fight at 175. Not 168 or catchweight. That is a bit funny considering he would move down to 168 and fight Williams.

Dawson didn't ask for 168 or 170. He asked for 175 on HBO. Kessler shouldn't have asked for his term since he will be getting paid and getting exposure on HBO Why 170??? Dawson has to drop 5 pounds while Kessler has to go up 2 pounds only. How about: Because Dawson was the one who called him out?

No not really. Since Hopkins done more he could demand anything he wanted. But this begs the question: why agree to it in the first place? Did he have a sudden realization that he was worth more, literally overnight? The cherry on top is he fought Hakkar for less than half (1.25 million) of what he was offered to fight JC (3 million). Yeah, I know Hakkar was a mandatory but surely adjustments can be made, just like Dawson "made adjustments" to fight the Tarver instead of Diaconu? The fact is, JC wasn't a particularly big name, he was a just a big risk. On the other hand, who the hell is Morade Hakkar? Put it this way, if the situation was reversed and Joe accepted a bid then turned his back, people would be shout DUCK from the rooftops. You bet your ass that's how it'd be. Double standards. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Doesn't sound like he's ducking anyone. His promoter is screwing up bad. Can't even get him Larsen for a lot of money. Sauerland hasn't replied to Palle's offers. I think they are speculating in the old mans poor health. Bastards! :lol1::lol1:

Very weird............... Why weird? It's a well known fact that Dawson didn't want to fight Kessler at 170 despite him calling out the lighter man.

I dont know what to hope for. Bottomline is that I'd like to see Kessler fight the best. Which promotor could make that happen IDK. Maybe Sauerland IS the best option. In that case we could be looking at Kessler-Abraham this time next year. I doubt any other promotor including GBP can secure big fights for Kessler. Regarding Lundt getting a promotors license well your guess is as good as mine. Maybe it's just a media stunt. Sometimes it's hard to look through all the BS. GBP would probably sign him and it'd be a good move for him considering how much pull they have with HBO even though their roster of fighters at 168 and 175 isn't the best. their relationships with other promoters are generally good so getting fights shouldn't be too much of a problem for him. Maybe Sauerland is the best option for him if he wants to stay in Europe, a fight with Abraham would probably be huge over there. Thanks for the info. :fing02:

Kessler avioded?? Johnson offered a him fight at 170 Froch wanted him ay 168 Dawson wanted him at 175 Oh pleaseeeeeee Paul Williams is the most avoided fighter in boxing today i realllyyyy doubt that ....

I see, that's a shame. So he has to deal with Palle for another year, not good for him, Palle seems to be throwing Kessler's career away honestly, sooner or later he's going to lose his stature as the best 168 pounder out there if he keeps fighting the opposition he's been fighting since the Calzaghe fight. Interesting, do you think his friend can get that promoter's license? Either way though, he'll be stuck with Palle for another year. I dont know what to hope for. Bottomline is that I'd like to see Kessler fight the best. Which promotor could make that happen IDK. Maybe Sauerland IS the best option. In that case we could be looking at Kessler-Abraham this time next year. I doubt any other promotor including GBP can secure big fights for Kessler. Regarding Lundt getting a promotors license well your guess is as good as mine. Maybe it's just a media stunt. Sometimes it's hard to look through all the BS.

The side contract was never agreed upon. The way I see it Palle has the long end of the stick. It might be that Kessler got screwed when he (unknowingly) approved of Palle's options, but a contract is a contract IMO and most be honored. Perhaps Kessler now has learned that you'd better read before signing anything. He isn't the first fighter getting tricked by his manager/promotor and he wont be the last. Some bonusinfo: Kessler's best friend has applied for a promotors license here in Denmark. The application is under review by the danish pro. boxing federation. Problem for his friend (former pro Simon Lundt) is that he has to have an unblemished reputation. Lundt has served 2 terms for major drug trafficking. It looks like Kessler has a questionable way of choosing his friends. I see, that's a shame. So he has to deal with Palle for another year, not good for him, Palle seems to be throwing Kessler's career away honestly, sooner or later he's going to lose his stature as the best 168 pounder out there if he keeps fighting the opposition he's been fighting since the Calzaghe fight. Interesting, do you think his friend can get that promoter's license? Either way though, he'll be stuck with Palle for another year.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=18235 I guess he was going to leave Palle if the Larsen fight had come off, wonder if that side-contract will be in place when he signs on for his mandatory defense. Any deal is better than the Palle deal it seems, I don't like it when relatives work as both promoter and manager, there's always some shady business going on there when that happens. The side contract was never agreed upon. The way I see it Palle has the long end of the stick. It might be that Kessler got screwed when he (unknowingly) approved of Palle's options, but a contract is a contract IMO and most be honored. Perhaps Kessler now has learned that you'd better read before signing anything. He isn't the first fighter getting tricked by his manager/promotor and he wont be the last. Some bonusinfo: Kessler's best friend has applied for a promotors license here in Denmark. The application is under review by the danish pro. boxing federation. Problem for his friend (former pro Simon Lundt) is that he has to have an unblemished reputation. Lundt has served 2 terms for major drug trafficking. It looks like Kessler has a questionable way of choosing his friends.

Palle has 3 more fights with Kessler according to options he got in the contract when Mikkel fought Haussler. The contract expires in feb. 2010. Sauerland is said to have a verbal agreement with Kessler as his future promotor. I dont know if thats a change for better or worse. WBA super middleweight champ Mikkel Kessler came back from his vacation in Thailand last week, and signed, according to Danish media, the proposed contract from Team Palle for a fight against Mads Larsen. However, with the contract came a side-contract with demands such as - The fight against Larsen would be his last for Team Palle where manager Bettina Palle has a contract for another year and Mogens Palle has an option for a three voluntary defences. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=18235 I guess he was going to leave Palle if the Larsen fight had come off, wonder if that side-contract will be in place when he signs on for his mandatory defense. Any deal is better than the Palle deal it seems, I don't like it when relatives work as both promoter and manager, there's always some shady business going on there when that happens.