We've all known Arum was a greedy asshole who didn't care about his fighters all along. Now Cotto knows this as well. This may be the golden opportunity (no pun intended) for Cotto to set sail and depart from Top Rank.
What say you?
Apart from that, Arum is a dumb promoter, point blank.
Look what he's doing with Clottey, err.....what he's not doing with him.
Look what he's doing with Pavlik, he's going to flush the biggest fight to be made from 160-168 down the toilet just because he doesn't want to take the risk. This despite the fact that Pavlik has gone on record multiple times expressing intrest in wanting to unify with Abraham.
Golden Boy is more greedy than TOP RANK...
I don't know if there is even a way to determine such a statement.
What I do know with absolute certainty is that Golden Boy is better at making bigger fights and, as pointed out, has the better relationship with HBO.
And I doubt Oscar would want to damage his name by finding a loophole to continue promoting a man who should be suspended from the sport for a year.
We've all known Arum was a greedy asshole who didn't care about his fighters all along. Now Cotto knows this as well. This may be the golden opportunity (no pun intended) for Cotto to set sail and depart from Top Rank.
What say you?
Golden Boy is more greedy than TOP RANK...
this is the damn truth! clottey can beat cotto, and was beating margarito. noone wants to fight him. he could unify 147 imo.
f there is anyone who needs to abondon Top Rank and joing Golden Boy Promotions, it's Joshua Clotty. Honestly the man is one of the three best welter weights in the world and Arum is doing absolutly nothing for him.
f there is anyone who needs to abondon Top Rank and joing Golden Boy Promotions, it's Joshua Clotty. Honestly the man is one of the three best welter weights in the world and Arum is doing absolutly nothing for him.
We've all known Arum was a greedy asshole who didn't care about his fighters all along. Now Cotto knows this as well. This may be the golden opportunity (no pun intended) for Cotto to set sail and depart from Top Rank.
What say you?
This would be a great time for Cotto to explore that option anyone know anything about his contract duration?
We've all known Arum was a greedy asshole who didn't care about his fighters all along. Now Cotto knows this as well. This may be the golden opportunity (no pun intended) for Cotto to set sail and depart from Top Rank.
What say you?
I have a fealing he will...
I'm not a fan of biting the hand that feeds you. Top Rank did an excellent job guiding Miguel's career up until now. Arum promotes Margarito as well, it's his job to stand up for him in that right even if it's bullshit.
I dont know why Golden Boy is supposed to be better anyway.
i agree with you, but i dont think cotto should stick with arum just out of loyalty........golden boy is much worse to develop fighters, but in the big leagues, theyre the best since they have a better relationship with HBO......
yea that would be a good move for cotto.....
Totally agree. Bob Arum is not concerned with the well being of it's fighters. He only wants to make money like Cotto said. I would jump the ship, Bob Arum is supporting a cheater. If I were Juanma Lopez I would also jump and go to Golden Boy!
We've all known Arum was a greedy asshole who didn't care about his fighters all along. Now Cotto knows this as well. This may be the golden opportunity (no pun intended) for Cotto to set sail and depart from Top Rank.
What say you?
Most def. I've been saying this for over a year. If he'd have jumped ship after the Mosley fight, I suspect we would have seen Mayweather-Cotto in summer 2008 instead of Margarito-Cotto. Oh well...all we can do is dream about what might have been.
margo needs to learn how to DUCK a punch
And a lot of other things. He's never been that good of a fighter to be honest...
yes, it would be good.
The gloves in your avatar are sickkkkk
You're right Arum is in a tight spot. In Cotto's case he has a right to be upset.
Golden Boy still hasn't shown the ability to bring up a prospect to stardom.
Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Kelly Pavlik are all products of Top Rank. Golden Boy isn't the future until they can do something like that.
gbp has a different philosophy than top rank though.
gbp lets the fighters make their own destiny. the good thing is that is we get really good fights (for instance jmm/diaz). the bad thing is that they don't develop their prospects, but throw them to lions (ie. the point you made).
top rank on the other hand controls their fighters destiny. the good thing is that they develop their prospects (for instance arum made dlh, pbf, and cotto the cash cows they are today). the bad thing is that they make sell mismatches as competitive (cotto/jennings, etc...) and they sideline other talented boxers (for example clottey).
soooooooo... gpb is better for the fans. top rank is better for the boxers' careers. my 2 cents.
He should consider Golden Boy or be his own promoter. The bad thing of leaving top rank is the help he gets from them, everywhere you see miguel cotto promotion you see top rank. Top Rank has help him rise to the level he is now, but the main focus of Arum right now is Antonio Plasterito.
With Oscar he should be all right depending the offer, probably he will learn new things as clinching and illegal tactics from hopkins jajaja.
From this point on he should promote himself, make his company well known with good fighters and retired aftr beating whats left like : Berto, Mosley2, Plasterito for vengeance, and mayweather.
At this point in Cottos career I don't think he needs a promoter. He's an elite fighter that can call his own shots. It's similar to wear Floyd Mayweather was when he left Arum and went on his own. Plus with the news of Margarito using hard pads in his wraps Cotto looks alot better in peoples eyes because that means he took a lot of punishment even though he quit. But knowing the greedy jew Arum he'll sue Cotto and Cotto might have to sit out for a while going through court and stuff like that. I don't know if he wants to do that at this point in his career.
i dont think cotto is at that level yet.
You're right Arum is in a tight spot. In Cotto's case he has a right to be upset.
Golden Boy still hasn't shown the ability to bring up a prospect to stardom.
Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Kelly Pavlik are all products of Top Rank. Golden Boy isn't the future until they can do something like that.
I agree with what you're saying, but they need a chance. It's hard to compare the two because of the longevity Top Rank has over GBP. And plus, Cotto isn't a prospect, and GBP's relationship with HBO can only help Miguel. Arum and Cotto haven't been getting along for a while, so I really think a move would the best thing Cotto could do.
But technically, since Arum is also Cotto's promoter, shouldn't he inquire into whether or not his fighter(Cotto) took a lot of illegal punishment in his last fight?
Arum's stuck in a tight spot, I'll give him that. But being that it looks like he's gonna have to chose between the two, you would think he'd chose the guy who makes him more money and didn't get caught cheating.
And I think Golden Boy would be better. It's the future. They have way more pull with HBO, and can do more with Cotto IMO.
And I think Cotto's promotion company is just Puerto Rico based. I can't see him expanding it.
You're right Arum is in a tight spot. In Cotto's case he has a right to be upset.
Golden Boy still hasn't shown the ability to bring up a prospect to stardom.
Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, Kelly Pavlik are all products of Top Rank. Golden Boy isn't the future until they can do something like that.
At this point in Cottos career I don't think he needs a promoter. He's an elite fighter that can call his own shots. It's similar to wear Floyd Mayweather was when he left Arum and went on his own. Plus with the news of Margarito using hard pads in his wraps Cotto looks alot better in peoples eyes because that means he took a lot of punishment even though he quit. But knowing the greedy jew Arum he'll sue Cotto and Cotto might have to sit out for a while going through court and stuff like that. I don't know if he wants to do that at this point in his career.
I'm not a fan of biting the hand that feeds you. Top Rank did an excellent job guiding Miguel's career up until now. Arum promotes Margarito as well, it's his job to stand up for him in that right even if it's bullshit.
I dont know why Golden Boy is supposed to be better anyway.
But technically, since Arum is also Cotto's promoter, shouldn't he inquire into whether or not his fighter(Cotto) took a lot of illegal punishment in his last fight?
Arum's stuck in a tight spot, I'll give him that. But being that it looks like he's gonna have to chose between the two, you would think he'd chose the guy who makes him more money and didn't get caught cheating.
And I think Golden Boy would be better. It's the future. They have way more pull with HBO, and can do more with Cotto IMO.
And I think Cotto's promotion company is just Puerto Rico based. I can't see him expanding it.