about cotto's stans; tell me, what is it about them?

Tszyu lucky punch he was getting raped up until then. Bullshit stoppage as well. Baldomir was one of the worst judging I have EVER witnessed. Pure robbery. Mayweather. Won 4 rounds count the KD and he won the last round. Would have been a draw. Cotto. Numerous low blows, headbuts, rabid punches etc. Cotto is a cheat and never deserved the win. Clottey. Only lost that fight as 30 seconds of round 8 were counted if they were not Zab would have got a draw. Head but meant Clottey should have been dq anways. 3 weight world champion Former undisputed welterweight champion of the world Acheived nothing? Dick get your mind right. Was gonna' ask what "stan" meant, but guess now I know...:ugh:

That he have a long way to go to be consider a ATG. His resume is good, but not near what you need to be a ATG. He wont be able to win titles in more than 3 WeightClasses, do to his body type. So he will have to clean 147 completely and Clear half of the SWW, to be consider ATG IMO. The guy is just starting the run for his legacy, so we have to wait and see. i think he have the abilities to become a ATG, but that doesnt mean he will be. If what you want, If me to say Floyds legacy is far better than Cottos? Well ofcourse it is. See i can respect what you just wrote.... but some of your kind...are beyond the scope with the shit they believe... i am a type of person if you give respect i will give it back... my problem is dont tell me Floyd HAVE to fight cotto, when cotto hasnt even accomplish half of what floyd has accomplish... it would be cool if floyd fought cotto but he doesnt have to fight him to prove anything, because cotto hasnt proved anything.. you see what i am saying... ? Floyd. vs. Cotto would be a good Great fighter vs. A Up and Coming Fighter kind of fight... but what it isnt.. Is 2 great fighters fighting each other...because cotto isnt a great fighter..because he hasnt accomplish anything great. that is the core of my arguments with you guys

Your problem with Cotto fans is Cotto himself. Since his FLoyds biggest threat, you always try to find something to bash on Cotto. Can Floyd outbox the shit out off Cotto? Ofcourse he can!!!!!! Can Cotto Ko Floyd or outpoint him? Ofcourse he cac That las one youll never agree on!!!!!!!! Shane Mosley was a threat too. When all the competiton that was left was strong fighters, Floyd Mayweather left. He was scare of Berto, Cotto, Mosley, P. Willliams and your servidor. So now that he sees Manny Pacquiao can be a possible opponent he comes out.

SOME do not hold cotto to the same standards they hold other fighters too. for example... SOME COTTO fans seem to have a Obession on what Mayweather should do for his legacy.. but never appy the same kind of pressure on there own fighter... Instead of Worrying bout Mayweather legacy Cotto fans needs to worry about Cotto's... When is Cotto going to proved to the world that he is a great fighter? when is he going to be a undisputed champion of a division? when is he going to be a fighter of the year over a combined 9 times? When is he going to be pound for pound # 1 in boxing for a 3 year period? when is he going to moved up 5 weight classes ? When is he going to be undisputed champion in 3 Divisions? When is he going to beat 2 top 10 undefeated pound 4 pound fighters? When is he going to have 8 title defense in one division? When is he going to Fight Paul Williams When is he going to actually win a title? When is he going to stop fighting for vacant titles? When is he going to improved his defense? When is he going to fight Joshua Clottey? When is he going to beat Margarito? When is he going to learn how to stop upper cuts and straight right hands When is he going to prove that he is hall of fame worthy... When is he going to take a fight in which he is not ready and not favored? I never Hear Cotto fans demanding Cotto go improve his legacy..why it that??? By they are up night and day worrying about Mayweather's legacy you want to talk about double standards? Mayweather gets away with more shit then any other boxers could.

Your problem with Cotto fans is Cotto himself. Since his FLoyds biggest threat, you always try to find something to bash on Cotto. Can Floyd outbox the shit out off Cotto? Ofcourse he can!!!!!! Can Cotto Ko Floyd or outpoint him? Ofcourse he cac That las one youll never agree on!!!!!!!! So , In your Opinion what do you think about Cotto's legacy?

this thread is about what brothers people about cotto fans...so i posted what i see as a problem with cotto fans.... and that was my problem.. Aright I feel that. I just can't comment on it, because I'm a Cotto fan, but I honestly don't think I fall under that category. But in fairness I haven't really seen much Floyd bashing by Cotto fans in the past few months. And I've said this before, but you put wayyyy too much stock into the vacant title thing. Cotto fought for the vacant WBA Welterweight title...but he fought Quintana. An undefeated Quintana coming off a huge win over Joel Julio, a Quintana that would go on to be the only man to defeat Paul Williams. It's who you beat, the belt being vacant is irrelevant.

Dont hate Cotto, hate Judah for throwing low blows on purpose. no cotto actually did low blow judah pretty bad.. cotto usually low blows most of his opponents at some point during the fight whether they are intentional or unintentional.. but i do think he low blowed judah on purpose

You literally copied and pasted this. And your bringing up Floyd when no one else in this thread has brought him up. You make it seem like Cotto fans talk about Floyd more than they do... this thread is about what brothers people about cotto fans...so i posted what i see as a problem with cotto fans.... and that was my problem..

I hate Cotto because he is a dirty cheat and lacks any heart. Dont hate Cotto, hate Judah for throwing low blows on purpose.

To me it is really the same with every fighter. People from any group can be annoying, especially when talking in absolutes (this is another thing that gets me about fan boys, when I think about a fight I think about what % chance each fighter has of winning roughly, fan boys almost never give the opponent a shot at winning when in reality there are no sure things in boxing and when you step into the ring no one really knows what will take place). To me it really depends on what fighters you like as to which stans are the worst. totally agree. SOME do not hold cotto to the same standards they hold other fighters too. for example... SOME COTTO fans seem to have a Obession on what Mayweather should do for his legacy.. but never appy the same kind of pressure on there own fighter... Instead of Worrying bout Mayweather legacy Cotto fans needs to worry about Cotto's... When is Cotto going to proved to the world that he is a great fighter? when is he going to be a undisputed champion of a division? when is he going to be a fighter of the year over a combined 9 times? When is he going to be pound for pound # 1 in boxing for a 3 year period? when is he going to moved up 5 weight classes ? When is he going to be undisputed champion in 3 Divisions? When is he going to beat 2 top 10 undefeated pound 4 pound fighters? When is he going to have 8 title defense in one division? When is he going to Fight Paul Williams When is he going to actually win a title? When is he going to stop fighting for vacant titles? When is he going to improved his defense? When is he going to fight Joshua Clottey? When is he going to beat Margarito? When is he going to learn how to stop upper cuts and straight right hands When is he going to prove that he is hall of fame worthy... When is he going to take a fight in which he is not ready and not favored? I never Hear Cotto fans demanding Cotto go improve his legacy..why it that??? By they are up night and day worrying about Mayweather's legacyyou always make me laugh horus. i could bump countless threads of yours where all you do is talk about cotto.simply because many people, prior to the margarito fight, thought he was his biggest threat.every thing you post is a ****ing test.everything. and it's S O B O R I N G. I'm not saying I don't think it's possible. In fact, putting all diplomacy aside, I think it's probable. I'm just sayin let it go. The day of the verdict there were like 10 threads popping up of Cotto fans just sticking it to Marg for the sake of it. It's immature and irritating. I'm just sayin it's better to let shit play out. Obviously it's going to be something on our minds, I know it's on mine. But a huge number of Cotto fans just can't handle themselves with any maturity on the situation. They just can't resist taking cheap shots, it's annoying. i understand that.i think i made a few:D but this is a forum.its gonna happen.watch a fight, say, it ends in a brutal ko, then log on, and you'll see 7 threads about the same thing.

Stans in general are annoying. That's pretty much it. People who are so blinded by their fanboyship of their fighter that they refuse to see the shortcomings of them are just ****ing annoying. A Cotto stan would never say something like I said about how I see Wright-Williams playing out (Williams getting a 9-3 or 8-4 decision because Winky is old, inactive and generally bad against volume punchers), because they cannot, for any reason, see their fighter losing. For instance, a Cotto stan said that Cotto's textbook technical boxing skills are just as good as Floyd Mayweather's... Uh huh... :smashfrea I guess that's why Cotto put his ass on the ropes all night against Margarito instead of using lateral movement and not going straight back? Really, if Cotto has the boxing skills of Mayweather, he would have not pinned his ass on the ropes so often and gotten himself into trouble so often. Handwraps or not, Cotto put himself in harm's way quite a bit. Stans are fans of fighters, not fans of the sport... and they are bad for boxing. great post.. yea stans basically think their fighter is invincible and can't beat touched and stans will not listen to reason or see it from someone else's point of view

SOME do not hold cotto to the same standards they hold other fighters too. for example... SOME COTTO fans seem to have a Obession on what Mayweather should do for his legacy.. but never appy the same kind of pressure on there own fighter... Instead of Worrying bout Mayweather legacy Cotto fans needs to worry about Cotto's... When is Cotto going to proved to the world that he is a great fighter? when is he going to be a undisputed champion of a division? when is he going to be a fighter of the year over a combined 9 times? When is he going to be pound for pound # 1 in boxing for a 3 year period? when is he going to moved up 5 weight classes ? When is he going to be undisputed champion in 3 Divisions? When is he going to beat 2 top 10 undefeated pound 4 pound fighters? When is he going to have 8 title defense in one division? When is he going to Fight Paul Williams When is he going to actually win a title? When is he going to stop fighting for vacant titles? When is he going to improved his defense? When is he going to fight Joshua Clottey? When is he going to beat Margarito? When is he going to learn how to stop upper cuts and straight right hands When is he going to prove that he is hall of fame worthy... When is he going to take a fight in which he is not ready and not favored? I never Hear Cotto fans demanding Cotto go improve his legacy..why it that??? By they are up night and day worrying about Mayweather's legacy You literally copied and pasted this. And your bringing up Floyd when no one else in this thread has brought him up. You make it seem like Cotto fans talk about Floyd more than they do...

i can agree with that. sav, you gotta think it's a legitimate point though.to beat a dead horse is one thing, but i don't think you can necessarily argue against the possibility of it.it was the biggest fight of his career. :bounce: :smashfrea I'm not saying I don't think it's possible. In fact, putting all diplomacy aside, I think it's probable. I'm just sayin let it go. The day of the verdict there were like 10 threads popping up of Cotto fans just sticking it to Marg for the sake of it. It's immature and irritating. I'm just sayin it's better to let shit play out. Obviously it's going to be something on our minds, I know it's on mine. But a huge number of Cotto fans just can't handle themselves with any maturity on the situation. They just can't resist taking cheap shots, it's annoying.

SOME do not hold cotto to the same standards they hold other fighters too. for example... SOME COTTO fans seem to have a Obession on what Mayweather should do for his legacy.. but never appy the same kind of pressure on there own fighter... Instead of Worrying bout Mayweather legacy Cotto fans needs to worry about Cotto's... When is Cotto going to proved to the world that he is a great fighter? when is he going to be a undisputed champion of a division? when is he going to be a fighter of the year over a combined 9 times? When is he going to be pound for pound # 1 in boxing for a 3 year period? when is he going to moved up 5 weight classes ? When is he going to be undisputed champion in 3 Divisions? When is he going to beat 2 top 10 undefeated pound 4 pound fighters? When is he going to have 8 title defense in one division? When is he going to Fight Paul Williams When is he going to actually win a title? When is he going to stop fighting for vacant titles? When is he going to improved his defense? When is he going to fight Joshua Clottey? When is he going to beat Margarito? When is he going to learn how to stop upper cuts and straight right hands When is he going to prove that he is hall of fame worthy... When is he going to take a fight in which he is not ready and not favored? I never Hear Cotto fans demanding Cotto go improve his legacy..why it that??? By they are up night and day worrying about Mayweather's legacy

that's the problem.i can see Miguel losing.in fact i have. when you argue with people that have their own underlining hypocrisy's, they call you a stan for arguing with them about it.it's ridiculous. I've never said miguel was stronger than a locomotive etc. in fact I've criticized his training, his trainer, and his lifestyle (which is none of my business, but i think if he was a little more committed to being great, he would be). my point is, most of cotto's fans that I've dealt with are nowhere near the ridiculous stans people who argue against cotto, make them out to be. hatton fans are not as bad either aside from the weebler and a couple new ones who clearly know jack shit. alot of floyd's fans are actual stans. MOST of margarito's fans are stans. these two sets of e-gangs are cotto's main detractors. margarito's fans where behaving (until recent events) like sore winners. floyd's boys where acting like it was floyd, who beat cotto. the majority of those groups are ridiculously annoying. they make it easy to not become a fan of their favorite fighter. To me it is really the same with every fighter. People from any group can be annoying, especially when talking in absolutes (this is another thing that gets me about fan boys, when I think about a fight I think about what % chance each fighter has of winning roughly, fan boys almost never give the opponent a shot at winning when in reality there are no sure things in boxing and when you step into the ring no one really knows what will take place). To me it really depends on what fighters you like as to which stans are the worst.

You actually might be brain dead. Tszyu was winning the second round before it was stopped... Zab's legs weren't working, the stoppage was just fine. I haven't seen the Baldomir fight. Winning 5 rounds and getting a 10-8 round for a knockdown is 114-113 for the other guy mathematician. Mayweather kicked his ass for the majority of that fight, and Judah did not clean sweep the first 4. Cotto hit low once that really was significant. The other was a show by Judah... Plus, you want to talk about dirty... that headbutt that cut Cotto looked intentional. Cotto made your boy turn, run and quit. Well done to Zab Judah for turning his back on a fight. That cut for the Clottey fight is disputed, as a punch or a butt, and it certainly wasn't intentional... yet another dumb analysis of a fight. Judah's ONLY win that he can hang his hat on is the rematch KO of Cory Spinks... hats off to him for that. Fans like you are the reason people hate your fighter. You are making Cotto stans look like knowledgable boxing fans with the shit you just posted. the guy said rabid punch.you should have stopped reading there.he knows nothing.

Any fan that thinks any fighter has some magical property that makes them unbeatable. All boxers are human, and any man can be defeated. That is annoying to me. that's the problem.i can see Miguel losing.in fact i have. when you argue with people that have their own underlining hypocrisy's, they call you a stan for arguing with them about it.it's ridiculous. I've never said miguel was stronger than a locomotive etc. in fact I've criticized his training, his trainer, and his lifestyle (which is none of my business, but i think if he was a little more committed to being great, he would be). my point is, most of cotto's fans that I've dealt with are nowhere near the ridiculous stans people who argue against cotto, make them out to be. hatton fans are not as bad either aside from the weebler and a couple new ones who clearly know jack shit. alot of floyd's fans are actual stans. MOST of margarito's fans are stans. these two sets of e-gangs are cotto's main detractors. margarito's fans where behaving (until recent events) like sore winners. floyd's boys where acting like it was floyd, who beat cotto. the majority of those groups are ridiculously annoying. they make it easy to not become a fan of their favorite fighter.

Stans in general are annoying. That's pretty much it. People who are so blinded by their fanboyship of their fighter that they refuse to see the shortcomings of them are just ****ing annoying. A Cotto stan would never say something like I said about how I see Wright-Williams playing out (Williams getting a 9-3 or 8-4 decision because Winky is old, inactive and generally bad against volume punchers), because they cannot, for any reason, see their fighter losing. For instance, a Cotto stan said that Cotto's textbook technical boxing skills are just as good as Floyd Mayweather's... Uh huh... :smashfrea I guess that's why Cotto put his ass on the ropes all night against Margarito instead of using lateral movement and not going straight back? Really, if Cotto has the boxing skills of Mayweather, he would have not pinned his ass on the ropes so often and gotten himself into trouble so often. Handwraps or not, Cotto put himself in harm's way quite a bit. Stans are fans of fighters, not fans of the sport... and they are bad for boxing. i can agree with that. Some Cotto fans are so ****in irritating. They don't shut up about the Margarito thing, they don't even entertain the idea that it's possible Tony didn't use them against Cotto. Basically, most of the Cotto fans here are nothing like Cotto himself...a lot of them, not all of course, but a lot of them act like they're fukkin 12 years old. sav, you gotta think it's a legitimate point though.to beat a dead horse is one thing, but i don't think you can necessarily argue against the possibility of it.it was the biggest fight of his career. http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r60/mr740ti/fail/millionaire_idiot_fail.jpg :bounce: I hate Cotto because he is a dirty cheat and lacks any heart. :smashfrea

Tszyu lucky punch he was getting raped up until then. Bullshit stoppage as well. Baldomir was one of the worst judging I have EVER witnessed. Pure robbery. Mayweather. Won 4 rounds count the KD and he won the last round. Would have been a draw. Cotto. Numerous low blows, headbuts, rabid punches etc. Cotto is a cheat and never deserved the win. Clottey. Only lost that fight as 30 seconds of round 8 were counted if they were not Zab would have got a draw. Head but meant Clottey should have been dq anways. 3 weight world champion Former undisputed welterweight champion of the world Acheived nothing? Dick get your mind right. This is a perfect example of a stan.

Tszyu lucky punch he was getting raped up until then. Bullshit stoppage as well. Baldomir was one of the worst judging I have EVER witnessed. Pure robbery. Mayweather. Won 4 rounds count the KD and he won the last round. Would have been a draw. Cotto. Numerous low blows, headbuts, rabid punches etc. Cotto is a cheat and never deserved the win. Clottey. Only lost that fight as 30 seconds of round 8 were counted if they were not Zab would have got a draw. Head but meant Clottey should have been dq anways. 3 weight world champion Former undisputed welterweight champion of the world Acheived nothing? Dick get your mind right. You actually might be brain dead. Tszyu was winning the second round before it was stopped... Zab's legs weren't working, the stoppage was just fine. I haven't seen the Baldomir fight. Winning 5 rounds and getting a 10-8 round for a knockdown is 114-113 for the other guy mathematician. Mayweather kicked his ass for the majority of that fight, and Judah did not clean sweep the first 4. Cotto hit low once that really was significant. The other was a show by Judah... Plus, you want to talk about dirty... that headbutt that cut Cotto looked intentional. Cotto made your boy turn, run and quit. Well done to Zab Judah for turning his back on a fight. That cut for the Clottey fight is disputed, as a punch or a butt, and it certainly wasn't intentional... yet another dumb analysis of a fight. Judah's ONLY win that he can hang his hat on is the rematch KO of Cory Spinks... hats off to him for that. Fans like you are the reason people hate your fighter. You are making Cotto stans look like knowledgable boxing fans with the shit you just posted.