People are over looking this dude as if he was a journeyman or a easy fighter, this guy gots skills, hes fast and has incredible power, watch him knock Donaire out and become a champion, i just hope they dont rob him if it goes to the scorecards, if martinez wins by convincing decision, you can bet the pinoys will cry robbery...
Also, Luevano gonna school Barbie Conception, this year is gonna be good for the young Mexican fighters :boxing: ... ortiz, guerrero, etc.
I have to tell you... I'm not overly impressed with this video. Up until the knockdown, I was thinking to myself, "I wonder which one of these two Martinez is."
The guy he was facing didn't look like a world beater, and the fact that it was an 8 round fight untelevised by HBO makes me think that I'm probably correct about this.
I think Cleveland and the Lakers will be in the Finals. Cleveland is just playing hungrier basketball, the Celtics are tired.
OH gawd, I hope not. I can't stand Mike Brown. I think he's a terrible coach. But I do like Lebron
if he was going to chuck 65% from behind the arc then I'd have some trouble too. But I doubt he'll do that in consecutive games. If he did then I'd actually guard him. First: a random guy from the park.. Second: Hillbilly Pimp? 2009 might be good to Charlie Z.
Hopefully Zelenoff can ride the momentum from that pickup game into the Hillbilly Pimp fight. I think that's what he needed to get his confidence back after the Hartley misadventure.
Zelenoff would probably beat me in basketball, he's mad tall and probably just hangs out at the courts all day. I just don't know why he shoots from his chest like a little kid.
if he was going to chuck 65% from behind the arc then I'd have some trouble too. But I doubt he'll do that in consecutive games. If he did then I'd actually guard him. First: a random guy from the park.. Second: Hillbilly Pimp? 2009 might be good to Charlie Z.
Your boxing IQ may > Xcaret but.. If you don't know about this dude.. You don't know basketball. Period. This dude is the truth:
Zelenoff would probably beat me in basketball, he's mad tall and probably just hangs out at the courts all day. I just don't know why he shoots from his chest like a little kid.
Are we getting blocked for calling ****e a **** or someting?
what the hell.
there's some *****s in this armour.
Dude, you should post a lot more. That avatar and sig does wonders.
I remember when Jordan retired a second time and Bill Wennington confronted the fans on their home opener the next season and told them it was going to be a rebuilding year.....
And they were blown out by like 40.
Your boxing IQ may > Xcaret but.. If you don't know about this dude.. You don't know basketball. Period. This dude is the truth:
I remember when Starks said he would stop Jordan.
What did Jordan do?
He put 55 on him that night. Classic.
Reggie Miller did the same thing to him. Starks was a solid B level player, he couldn't come through in the clutch against the Rockets in the Finals. He just wasn't meant to be that next level of player.
I still remember when he dunked on Jordan though, that was tight.
I remember when Starks said he would stop Jordan.
What did Jordan do?
He put 55 on him that night. Classic.
I remember that. ****e Lee even had a commercial with Nike with him saying MJ dropping double-nickel on his beloved Knicks. Those ****e Lee Nike commercials were the bomb. "It's gotta be the shoes!"
We're still on topic, right?
I remember when Jordan retired a second time and Bill Wennington confronted the fans on their home opener the next season and told them it was going to be a rebuilding year.....
And they were blown out by like 40.
It was downhill from there. There were quite a few prospects the Bulls experimented with that didn't work. Once Pippen left, Kukoc couldn't handle the pressure. Then they had 1st round picks like Elton Brand, Jay Williams, Ron Artest, etc. Essentially, the Bulls now are just as bad the the first rebuilding year. But there was an article in Forbes magazine naming the Bulls being in the top 3 most profitable NBA teams. What can you say, Chicago, the lovable-looser cow town.
Yeah, those were the days when I was in high school and my classmates and I always talked about the Bulls beating everybody. Hell, we were even rooting for the likes of Bill Wennington, Bill Carthwright, and Steve Kerr. Then the MJ retired the second time and the days are gone. Good times...
I remember when Jordan retired a second time and Bill Wennington confronted the fans on their home opener the next season and told them it was going to be a rebuilding year.....
And they were blown out by like 40.
yup.
kobe is following mj's lead.
that's why lebron could never be like mike or kobe.
he is what he is. when he loses his athleticism. he's done.
the guy can't make free throws......how the hell is lebron gonna make fadeaways when he gets old?
Yeah Kobe has gone far now that he acts like a true leader like MJ was. He motivated everyone around him. I have nothing against Lebron either. The man has pure, raw athleticism. But yeah, Lebron might crack on those crucial moments where there is pressure of making the last shots. Kobe is certainly on the same level as MJ in those last second moments.
I actually loved the bulls when I was a kid, but my serious love for basketball (before boxing) was in the late 90s after Jordan when Malone and Stockton still played. I loved the Jazz then. I like them now, but Karl Malone is a beast.
For me it started with the Magic and the Knicks of the early-mid 90s, then when Shaq was traded to the Lakers I followed them because Penny fell off.
I loved the team of Starks, Ewing, Mason, Oakley, Charlie Ward, now that was a bad ass team.
People are over looking this dude as if he was a journeyman or a easy fighter, this guy gots skills, hes fast and has incredible power, watch him knock Donaire out and become a champion, i just hope they dont rob him if it goes to the scorecards, if martinez wins by convincing decision, you can bet the pinoys will cry robbery...
Also, Luevano gonna school Barbie Conception, this year is gonna be good for the young Mexican fighters :boxing: ... ortiz, guerrero, etc.
Luevano, Martinez, Ortiz, & Guerrero all born and live in the USA.
Never know. He could have been what Ben Wallace was. Ben Wallace did nothing for Chicago. NOTHING.
you know that's what the lakers were asking for in return for kobe?
ben wallace , luol deng and fillers to make the numbers match.
the bulls should have made the deal......especially considering how they ended up taking all these bad contracts from the cavs to get rid of wallace.
That is ugly, get that outta here.
I hated the Bulls so much when Jordan was active because it just seemed impossible to beat them. When they beat the Magic in 96 Playoffs, that made me so pissed.
Yeah, those were the days when I was in high school and my classmates and I always talked about the Bulls beating everybody. Hell, we were even rooting for the likes of Bill Wennington, Bill Carthwright, and Steve Kerr. Then the MJ retired the second time and the days are gone. Good times...
Ha ha ha. MJ perfected the fade-away shots in his last few years. That's when he thought that the glory of dunking over anybody was fading. Dude can talk smack in the court, though.
yup.
kobe is following mj's lead.
that's why lebron could never be like mike or kobe.
he is what he is. when he loses his athleticism. he's done.
the guy can't make free throws......how the hell is lebron gonna make fadeaways when he gets old?
That is ugly, get that outta here.
I hated the Bulls so much when Jordan was active because it just seemed impossible to beat them. When they beat the Magic in 96 Playoffs, that made me so pissed.
I actually loved the bulls when I was a kid, but my serious love for basketball (before boxing) was in the late 90s after Jordan when Malone and Stockton still played. I loved the Jazz then. I like them now, but Karl Malone is a beast.