Both Cintron & Clottey were also basically undefeated but all you guys are talking about is the Cotto fight. Thats not fair. I made a thread a week ago saying how the #1 thing I keep thinking about is when Margarito dropped Cintron with that body shot and then was badly taunting him by waving his arms for Cintron to get up. Then after the fight is stopped he immediatly runs over to Arum and begs him for the Cotto fight like he would kill him. I felt that was the biggest bitch move of all time if its true that he cheated. Talking smack like he really did something when he had bricks in his hands the whole time. There is no way your going to convince me that he didnt have something in his gloves against Cintron either.
After Margarito beat Cotto I made a thread saying how I think Margarito's chin is overrated because even though he's facing big punchers, none of them are comminting to the punch like they normaly do because there scared of his return fire. If he doesnt have that same power then those guys are fighting toe to toe alot more and those punches would then start to add up on Tony. Instead of punching going backwards, they would be digging in shots like Mosley did. I just feel like Cintron's big power shots may have gotten to Tony also if he didnt have the fear of Tony's power coming back. The same goes for Clottey. Clottey is so superior in talent to him otherwise.
Another guy that no one is talking about is Williams. Why not talk about him? Because he won? Dont forget that it was a close fight that Williams took alot of punishment in the later rounds and maybe its not a coincedence that he lost his next fight. There were even a thousand threads on here saying that Williams lost to Quinatana because Margarito took it out of him. That may actually be true. It may have took him a fight to recover from those plaster shots and then he killed Quinatana in the rematch. My whole point is that we cant just keep talking about Cotto just because he was the golden boy when these other fighters havent really lost to anyone else either. Cotto was a beast but its not like Margarito was a total scrub before that fight so I just dont buy that he would suddenly use the plaster for Cotto and not for his previous fights. I even think he had it when he killed Golden Johnson. Those shots didnt even seem that hard and it was only the 1st round but Johnson collapsed like he got hit by Tyson. All that in the 1st round from a guy who isnt a 1 punch KO artist?
Both Cintron & Clottey were also basically undefeated but all you guys are talking about is the Cotto fight. Thats not fair. I made a thread a week ago saying how the #1 thing I keep thinking about is when Margarito dropped Cintron with that body shot and then was badly taunting him by waving his arms for Cintron to get up. Then after the fight is stopped he immediatly runs over to Arum and begs him for the Cotto fight like he would kill him. I felt that was the biggest bitch move of all time if its true that he cheated. Talking smack like he really did something when he had bricks in his hands the whole time. There is no way your going to convince me that he didnt have something in his gloves against Cintron either.
After Margarito beat Cotto I made a thread saying how I think Margarito's chin is overrated because even though he's facing big punchers, none of them are comminting to the punch like they normaly do because there scared of his return fire. If he doesnt have that same power then those guys are fighting toe to toe alot more and those punches would then start to add up on Tony. Instead of punching going backwards, they would be digging in shots like Mosley did. I just feel like Cintron's big power shots may have gotten to Tony also if he didnt have the fear of Tony's power coming back. The same goes for Clottey. Clottey is so superior in talent to him otherwise.
Another guy that no one is talking about is Williams. Why not talk about him? Because he won? Dont forget that it was a close fight that Williams took alot of punishment in the later rounds and maybe its not a coincedence that he lost his next fight. There were even a thousand threads on here saying that Williams lost to Quinatana because Margarito took it out of him. That may actually be true. It may have took him a fight to recover from those plaster shots and then he killed Quinatana in the rematch. My whole point is that we cant just keep talking about Cotto just because he was the golden boy when these other fighters havent really lost to anyone else either. Cotto was a beast but its not like Margarito was a total scrub before that fight so I just dont buy that he would suddenly use the plaster for Cotto and not for his previous fights. I even think he had it when he killed Golden Johnson. Those shots didnt even seem that hard and it was only the 1st round but Johnson collapsed like he got hit by Tyson. All that in the 1st round from a guy who isnt a 1 punch KO artist?
exactly! would you be more willing to go foward if you didn't fear a fighter punching power? Plus hard punches wears you down. Plus Margarito didn't have to put much weight and effort on his punches. Everyone should know that the more weight you put on a punch the more tire you get.
If anyone had loaded gloves you dont have to use all your strength to knock out a guy. So it worked both ways. Cotto was getting more tiring, Margarito wasn't. Cotto would have jumped on his ass more if he felt Margarito wasn't that strong of a puncher.
Cintron isn't very good anyways. He's went life and death with the second tier.
I can't see him beating the top 5 of the division without Margarito anyways.
yeah and thats the thing but at the same time a guy like Margarito seems to be made for him. There's a reason why Cintron's team took the fight the 1st time and theres even a bigger reason why they took the rematch even after he got killed the 1st time. Its because they think that Cintron matches up super well with Margarito due to how limited Margarito is himself, how bad his D is, and how slow he is. I definatly dont think that Cintron is this special fighter but I could see him giving Margarito some real trouble if things were even
Just because Cotto has more fans than Clottey or Cintron. You can't point to one fight and say that's when he started loading his gloves. If he tried to do it once, you have to assume he's done it his entire career.
because the the cotto fight was his biggest fight.
why would you make a thread about people singling out cotto as a victim?
i know why:lol1:
this question you posted is not worthy of a thread because you are not looking for an answer.you just wanna be a ***, because you thought you had killed 2 birds with one stone after mosley demolished plastercheato.guess what, the other bird was resurrected.:lol1:floyd ducked cotto.
I read a writers opinions (forgot who) saying that he believed Margarito started loading his gloves right after the Paul Williams fight. Maybe he lost confidence so to give him an edge they started loading it up. So yes, every fight after that, including Cintron II, could have been tainted. But we will never know, thats what really sucks about all this.
And it really sucks for Cintron if true, I mean I could only imagine how hard he must have trained for the rematch, knowing that Margarito kicked his ass the first time, only to step in the ring and for him to hit you even harder??? Must have mentally drained him after the first couple rounds.
yeah but I think it started even before then. I mean he had already struggled bad with Clottey and had lost to Santos so why not think that he started before the williams fight? I think he easily couldve had them when he fought Cintron even the 1st time