was at work today bored and it got me thinking off all the undistputed champions my country has produced.
so ill get the thread started
england
heavyweight champion - lennox lewis
cruiserweigt champion - david haye
super middleweight champion - joe calzaghe
welterweight - lloyd honeyghan
light welterweight - ricky hatton
featherweight - naseem hamed
no titlists aloud plz
Montiel can dispute it can he not?
if you can give me at least 6 articles calling Vic undesputed then i'll consider VIC as an undisputed champ.
you are playing the undisputed world way tooo litterally bro...
and as for 6 articles... wayy too easy, i mean read up anything on their upcoming fight..
you can find six just at F I G H T N E W S .com
lolll
mine and everyyyyyyyyyy damn boxing writer out there... ya :)
Montiel can dispute it can he not?
if you can give me at least 6 articles calling Vic undesputed then i'll consider VIC as an undisputed champ.
not quite... majority of the belts means undisputed in my book...
in VIC's case, Montiel the WBO holder doesn't even wanna fight him, so no dispute :)
fine then. Vic is undisputed in your book.
like i said.. its somethin that can be argued...
but if you are 100% right... then that means 99% of the boxing experts and writers are WRONG in alllll their articles and interviews since VIC beat Mijares.
You will even see this Sat. on SHOWTIME Vic being introduced by Jimmy Lennon Jr. as Undisputed World Champ.
wrong.
undisputed champion means no one can dispute the title.
if a fighter is wbc , wba and ibf champion but the wbo has it's own champion then that means the wbo is "disputing" his title.
a guy can even have all 4 major org belts but if he's not the ring/lineal champion then he's still not undisputed.
a guy can only be called undisputed with 3 belts if it was a few years back before the wbo became considered a major org.
hence why guys who had 3 belts , the wbc , wba and ibf , were called undisputed.
dude i hear your point...
but here... its on all the majore boxing sites...
just look now at F I G H T N E W S .com
They were in the same room and the same ring, but three-time world champion Jorge “Travieso” Arce and undisputed super flyweight champion Vic Darchinyan did not engage in conversation as they took questions from young amateurs boxers today at the PAL Boxing Club in downtown Anaheim. Arce and Darchinyan will meet on Saturday night at the Honda Center in a long awaited battle between two of the most fierce and highly popular boxers in the lower weight classes.
again... no it doesn't... Undisputed means majority of belts
VIC has 3/4 and all the writers/magazines/experts refer to him as the undisputed champ at super fly.
it can be argued though I guess.
wrong.
undisputed champion means no one can dispute the title.
if a fighter is wbc , wba and ibf champion but the wbo has it's own champion then that means the wbo is "disputing" his title.
a guy can even have all 4 major org belts but if he's not the ring/lineal champion then he's still not undisputed.
a guy can only be called undisputed with 3 belts if it was a few years back before the wbo became considered a major org.
hence why guys who had 3 belts , the wbc , wba and ibf , were called undisputed.
undisputed means all the major belts.
wbc , wba , ibf and wbo.
again... no it doesn't... Undisputed means majority of belts
VIC has 3/4 and all the writers/magazines/experts refer to him as the undisputed champ at super fly.
it can be argued though I guess.
HERE.. JUST OUT ON FNEWS
They were in the same room and the same ring, but three-time world champion Jorge “Travieso” Arce and undisputed super flyweight champion Vic Darchinyan did not engage in conversation as they took questions from young amateurs boxers today at the PAL Boxing Club in downtown Anaheim. Arce and Darchinyan will meet on Saturday night at the Honda Center in a long awaited battle between two of the most fierce and highly popular boxers in the lower weight classes.
Montiel called his ass out after the Mijares fight u dumb fuk
my bitch is here again lolll
you get on your knees and look up at me first before you talk BITCH!
and **** you and Montiel... VIC later accepted and said lets do this, then Montiel thought it over and said... I was just talkin like that bitch Xcaret, nevermind VIC, dont wanna get knocked out!
bro
at the time of Elorde there's only one belt to be won.
Undisputed means 4 out 4 or 3 out 3. If there's another champion in your division you're not undisputed. because that fighter can dispute it :) keyword
Undisputed is Hopkins @ Middleweight
Tyson after beating Tucker and Smith.
not quite... majority of the belts means undisputed in my book...
in VIC's case, Montiel the WBO holder doesn't even wanna fight him, so no dispute :)
3 out of 4, or 4 out of 4 belts are pretty much the same thing... both considered Undisputed Champ considering the fighter holds more than 50% of the belts in a particular division.
of course 4 out of 4 would be a bit more of an achievement i guess.
bro
at the time of Elorde there's only one belt to be won.
Undisputed means 4 out 4 or 3 out 3. If there's another champion in your division you're not undisputed. because that fighter can dispute it :) keyword
Undisputed is Hopkins @ Middleweight
Tyson after beating Tucker and Smith.
Undisputed? How about when there's only one champion at each division?
Pancho Villa
Gabriel Elorde
Ceferino Garcia
3 out of 4, or 4 out of 4 belts are pretty much the same thing... both considered Undisputed Champ considering the fighter holds more than 50% of the belts in a particular division.
of course 4 out of 4 would be a bit more of an achievement i guess.
Hahaha, hate it or not, Vic can't be the man (Is that being specific enough) until he goes through the guy who Kod him and took his belt. How can u be the man when the guy who beat u is in the same division? Vic has proven he has improved vastly, to the point he is he is a overwealming fav over arce, but this doesnt make him the man... Road ultimately goes through Donaire... Sorry
I understand some of what your saying... and VIC wants nothin more than to get his revenge against Donaire...
with that said, VIC lost his 112 pound title to Donaire.... then after he moved up to 115 where he currently dominates as an Undisputed Champ...
there are promoter issues in why VIC vs. Donaire II may never happen, but I assure you VIC will get to bigger places than Donaire... he already has, and perhaps after this, he will move up again to fight Marquez, or Vasquez, then perhaps Pacman
VIC is currently a 2 division World Champ, his goal is to move up more and become 3, or even 4 division world champ.
Donaire is just a title holder who hasn't done much since he won that belt except defend it a few times... lets see him unify with another champ at 112 to know if he is the real deal, or a lucky punch one hit wonder.
say what????? lolll
you have no idea what undisputed means my friend...
VIC only needs to beat Donaire to avenge his only loss...
VIC DARCHINYAN ALREADY IS UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMP at 115
http://sports.sho.com/media/events/mijares-darchinyan-recap-img8.jpg
Count them belts...yes... 3 :) IBF is Red, WBC is Green, and WBA is the black one ;)
Hahaha, hate it or not, Vic can't be the man (Is that being specific enough) until he goes through the guy who Kod him and took his belt. How can u be the man when the guy who beat u is in the same division? Vic has proven he has improved vastly, to the point he is he is a overwealming fav over arce, but this doesnt make him the man... Road ultimately goes through Donaire... Sorry
Vic has those three titles.. But he's gotta beat Donaire to be UNDISPUTED
say what????? lolll
you have no idea what undisputed means my friend...
VIC only needs to beat Donaire to avenge his only loss...
VIC DARCHINYAN ALREADY IS UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMP at 115
http://sports.sho.com/media/events/mijares-darchinyan-recap-img8.jpg
Count them belts...yes... 3 :) IBF is Red, WBC is Green, and WBA is the black one ;)
All Donaire did was win VIC's IBF title... that in no way makes him undisputed... undisputed is 3 out of 4 major belts...
which VIC now has at 115... IBF/WBC/WBA
Vic has those three titles.. But he's gotta beat Donaire to be UNDISPUTED
I thought the same thing, but if I remember right during their time their wasn't a linear/World champ in their division so I gave him Penalosa and Donaire :fing02:
All Donaire did was win VIC's IBF title... that in no way makes him undisputed... undisputed is 3 out of 4 major belts...
which VIC now has at 115... IBF/WBC/WBA
I thought the same thing, but if I remember right during their time their wasn't a linear/World champ in their division so I gave him Penalosa and Donaire :fing02:
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