who quit in a more cowardly fashion - cotto or margarito?

PS The fact that Cotto lasted that long against a man who was wearing plaster, says a lot about how tough Cotto is. you're jumping the gun on this one. wait for feb 10. If Cotto is so chinny, why did he not get knocked out by Mosley? cause cotto actually has some defense And if Margarito is so granite chinned, why did he get knocked the phuk out? cause mosley killed the body first If Margarito hits so damn hard? Why were his punches looking more like Paulie Malignaggi's and not like some moster killer king kong fisted every one fears me warrior? maybe marg sacrificed power for a little more speed And don't say Tony never hit Shane because he did but those punches looke like feather fisted Paulie Malignaggi. toney was just looking to score points cause he couldnt land his big shots

Which Margarito fight is this poll talking about? I wasn't aware he had ever quit.

Cotto didn't quit his body gave out on him and no wonder he was being beaten with gloves full of plaster.

Margarito did the exact opposite of quit this is ridiculous 34 complete retards on this thread

bumptastic.

I thought so...:lame: i bet you did. ;)

read people read. its good for you. i swear. I thought so...:lame:

yea...i kinda missed that part during the fight...i saw a guy go out on his shield Yup, you are correct... This thread is so dumb.

i'm just using a term that's thrown around rather loosely here. read people read. its good for you. i swear.

i just wanted to quote myself before quoting all the morons who don't read the entire thread before going on the attack. my initial post was based off the stupidity of other members of this forum. i have never said either fighter quit and even in my the post of mine which i am quoting i am only saying that if either fighter quit - it was margarito. so eat a d*ck idiots. i'm right, you're wrong. i conned all of you into having an intelligent discussion about the whole "cotto quit" ideology that mexicans proudly parade around with. mind you this was useless because idiots will still say it but atleast we have a thread that can be referenced to next time some idiot says "cotto quit, margarito is a warrior". everyone below this point is a retard. ^^ f*ggots that can't read ^^ :boxing: You described both fighters as cowardly in the thread title. You offered two choices in the poll. Both choices were to label a fighter a coward. There was no option like say, "I don't think either fighter is cowardly because I have too much respect for the sport to call any fighter a coward" or something like that... I can read just fine. You need to learn what the words that you use mean, fool.

(although he didn't take the necessary steps forward towards the referee in the opinion of many) Concerning this the ref, he should have stopped the fight, because Margarito was suppose to come foward. Plus he was daze. Margarito would have lasted just 8 rounds. And that was without Shane Mosley having plaster in his hands. Margarito lost at the beginning of the 9th round. He had almost four rounds to quit on his own without getting hit by plaster. Which mean that if the corner of cotto would have thrown in the towel one round earlier you wouldn't have seen the same ending. The cotto corner just wanted to see if he survived to the last two round to see if they could win the decision. Contrary to the Margarito corner that knew he had no chance in winning the fight. But if the fight was about even and it was the 12 round perhaps they would give him some more time, but he was being rocked in the beginning of the 9th round so they had to stop the fight.

lol and now youre trying to make an excuse that you planned this thing all along?? who are you kidding? its bad enough for you to make a dumb thread now youre trying to saving yourself with a bunch of lies, youre getting pathetic :lol1: it really isn't that difficult to make puppets dance man.

i just wanted to quote myself before quoting all the morons who don't read the entire thread before going on the attack. my initial post was based off the stupidity of other members of this forum. i have never said either fighter quit and even in my the post of mine which i am quoting i am only saying that if either fighter quit - it was margarito. so eat a d*ck idiots. i'm right, you're wrong. i conned all of you into having an intelligent discussion about the whole "cotto quit" ideology that mexicans proudly parade around with. mind you this was useless because idiots will still say it but atleast we have a thread that can be referenced to next time some idiot says "cotto quit, margarito is a warrior". everyone below this point is a retard. ^^ f*ggots that can't read ^^ :boxing: i saw a point that was being argued and wanted the entire forums opinion on it. secretly i've been annoyed with the whole notion that cotto "quit" according to the mexican fans so i created this to calm that little conspiracy that cotto is a no balls having putita in a skirt on hunts point. there is some fairly intelligent analysis on that point in this thread if you'd actually read through the whole thing. give it a try. lol and now youre trying to make an excuse that you planned this thing all along?? who are you kidding? its bad enough for you to make a dumb thread now youre trying to saving yourself with a bunch of lies, youre getting pathetic :lol1:

Marg did not quit, i would have liked it if his corner stopped the fight before the 9th.Sometimes the corner has to do whats right for his fighter.

Wow the fact that this thread was created is beyond me, how can you compare a man taking a knee after getting hit with brass knuckles vs a man getting battered to a point of collapsing.... i saw a point that was being argued and wanted the entire forums opinion on it. secretly i've been annoyed with the whole notion that cotto "quit" according to the mexican fans so i created this to calm that little conspiracy that cotto is a no balls having putita in a skirt on hunts point. there is some fairly intelligent analysis on that point in this thread if you'd actually read through the whole thing. give it a try.

Wow the fact that this thread was created is beyond me, how can you compare a man taking a knee after getting hit with brass knuckles vs a man getting battered to a point of collapsing....

i don't think either guy quit. i'm just using a term that's thrown around rather loosely here. by a bunch of fat homos sitting behind keyboards eating cheetos degrading dudes who fight for a living. if anyone "quit" or stopped on their own accord it was margarito. he appeared as though he could've gotten up but he did the wise thing and stayed down being that he would've been down again within that same minute. i feel cotto used the same wisdom in taking that knee and living to see another day. funny the mexicans and puerto ricans i was talking about haven't touched this thread now that they've seen how people with intellect feel about the term in regards to men who put there bodies on the line for there viewing pleasure. maybe this will teach them to not throw the term around so freely. i just wanted to quote myself before quoting all the morons who don't read the entire thread before going on the attack. my initial post was based off the stupidity of other members of this forum. i have never said either fighter quit and even in my the post of mine which i am quoting i am only saying that if either fighter quit - it was margarito. so eat a d*ck idiots. i'm right, you're wrong. i conned all of you into having an intelligent discussion about the whole "cotto quit" ideology that mexicans proudly parade around with. mind you this was useless because idiots will still say it but atleast we have a thread that can be referenced to next time some idiot says "cotto quit, margarito is a warrior". everyone below this point is a retard. this thread is so ****ing worthless, dude grow up. these threads really piss me off, step in the ring with one of them then we'll see who the coward really is. internet tough guy... neither quit like a coward.....i'd like to see your bitch ass get in there and take that kind of punishment. Both corners threw in the towels too if i remember correctly......i don't remember either fighter actually quitting. this thread is so ****ing worthless, dude grow up. these threads really piss me off, step in the ring with one of them then we'll see who the coward really is. internet tough guy... You really aren't smart. This topic is stupid because you posed a stupid question. Neither fighter quit. man u are dumber than I thought. Margs was knocked out. The ref stopped the fight he didnt quit. So according to your stupid logic Foreman quit against Ali Tyson quit against Douglas Amir Khan quit against Prescott Hatton Quit against mayweather Vargas quit against both tito and Oscar A knockout mean nothing but the fact that the fight chose to quit! I would like to ask you, who the hell are you to call either of these guys a coward? What chops do you have? You a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient or something? I'd wager that you're some wannabe internet tough guy that lives in a rented room and tells everybody online that you're a Navy Seal. Bangin' feverishly on some library computer w/the librarian lookin' over your shoulder to make sure you're not wankin' away to some gay porn... Phony, keyboard 'gangsta' with a bad case of acne and a hairlip. What an ass. :loser: ^^ f*ggots that can't read ^^ :boxing:

Exactly. A warrior would have tried. He folded after that 1st shot in round 1 and got his ass beat for what!??? He didn't fool me. Maybe he fooled the lesser evolved who think he "went out on his shield" Nah he tried to come in with his Plaster and left his shield in the car. Brave?? My cock. By your thoughts I bet you've hardly been in a fight, or boxing match, and I can tell you if you've been hit hard, it is very hard to throw punches, your mind wants to, but your body doesn't respond.

Oh let me slow it down for you. The concept of being a warrior or MACHO is actually a sign of giving in to what others perceive you to be. To be punched in the face beyond reason for the sake of what others will think of you is cowardly. He knew he was done, and he went out in the 9th to impress Chavez Sr. Not because he had balls.. Even Chavez Sr. Knew how and when to "quit." Ask Randall, and DLH. Tony took it to another level that even his heroes wouldn't. Why? He was dumb enough. That's like the fool who gets shot in the mouth out of "fear" he would be deemed soft by his homeboys for not getting shot in the mouth. This quitting on your shield BS is a cult of idiots afraid to man up and say, I am done. You know I am right, but you wanna play dumb. A very small percentage of fighters are true warriors. The other 99% are afraid to be dubbed quitters. There ability to continue is rooted in FEAR of humiliation and NOT guts per se. Hence, they are cowards nonetheless. Damn, I am fckin brilliant. I am ALL for "going out on your shield" when it's a true warrior and not someone acting like a warrior or doing it when you know they are not that hard. The last thought Margarito had was " Do it for Chavez!!!" It's sacrificing yourself out of fear of ridicule. Weak. Margarito actually He didn't do everything he could do to try and squeeze out a win. He didn't change his gameplan in the face of adversity, and accepted inevitability. That, in my eyes, is more cowardly then to be winning the fight and then when things go sour try everything you could to still win. Actually... You guys are confusing cowardliness with stupidity, the fact that he didn't quit is stupid not cowardly. Cotto was smart enought to quit. In the face adversity and eventhough it is futile to continue, Margarito chose to go out fighting. That was stupid, but very brave. To let the influences of the fans convince you to continue is stupid but not cowardly.

i saw people arguing back and forth in another thread about who quit in worse fashion so lets take a vote. i expect the ricans to vote for cotto and the mexicans to vote for there guy so we'll just factor in the clearly unbiased posters as the deciding votes. cotto: bloody, battered, shattered, broken nose, (possibly being beaten with plastered hands), ate uppercut after uppercut, and quit from what looked to be exhaustion taking a knee without even being hit. margarito: no blood from what i can recall, ate body shot after body shot, ate mosleys bombs and right hands all night with glee, got knocked down and was able to continue (although he didn't take the necessary steps forward towards the referee in the opinion of many), then got knocked down in the following round - with a smile on his face Cotto didn't quit he was stopped, simple as that, he took 2 knees to attempt to recover his legs and was stopped shortly after, he admitted to not being the same after the first 6 rounds and was totally fatigued so he did the best instinctive thing a fighter does to prevent anymore immediate damage and he took a knee, something like how Floyd Mayweather took a knee for a hurt hand, at THAT precise moment he was defenseless so to avoid taking punches in that position he took a knee to keep off the damage, he rose up and continued fighting but he took the knee to allow himself enough time to gather himself and continue, in Cotto's case it was his corner and Referee who stepped up to stop it but in terms of HIS OWN ACTIONS? well in terms of that he rose up, he was responding in the way that a fighter does in tough times, regardless of how beaten and battered he was he beat the count and stood up on his feet, even the referee would have allowed him to continue if his corner had not stepped up because he showed the necessary signs of a man who wanted to continue because he beat the count he didn't stay down and roll over or walk away from his man, he simply lost the bout but he didn't quit, that was FAR from quitting.. also Margarito didn't quit neither, Margarito was knocked out after being Boxed out of his trunks by a better pugilist, someone who was able to use his power punching ability more effectively, someone who was in a whole higher bracket of prize fighters in Shane Mosley, Margarito was going to lose that fight even if they gave Panama Lewis a 1 time return to assist Capetillo in wrapping Antonio's hands, it wouldn't have mattered because in that bout it was the styles that determined the outcome not the plaster. there was a dominance that took place in the ring that night, there was a 1 sided assault in that ring as Tony wasn't ever in that fight, it was almost punching bag status. he laughed because he was acknowledging Mosley, it's almost like "you didn't hurt me, but I respect what you doing", at 1st Tony wasn't damaged, then it became "damn man you got it", some fighters react different to that realization in the middle of a fight, some showboat to play possum and others smile, either way once a punch makes you react in any way other than throwing a punch back whether it be smiling, stumbling or talking it serves as indication that you were affected by the other guys shots, he didn't take the necessary steps in continuing because he simply didn't know what to even feel, he never experienced that before.. neither men are quitters, you're just part of the plague that is ruining Boxing, throwing allegations as such calling these men quitters when they are not..