How does one go about cheating while you are being watched by the commision?

I just don't get it. I've watched the video where Resto refuses to take his gloves off after the fight because his hands where wrapped illegally and padding was removed from the gloves. I just don't get how this happens though! Isn't someone from the athletic commission supposed to overlook the fighters and trainers while they are wrapping the hands? Was Margarito's plaster mixed before hand or on the spot and if so why didn't someone catch this if it indeed happened? Is the commission that careless, and if they are then who knows how many other fighters rig there wraps to have an unfair advantage? I don't like this doubt man.. This whole thing just ****ed things up for me. If Margarito or Capatillo did indeed get plaster past the commission.. n would not have been caught where it for Naz, who knows how many times they have done it? Who knows if others have done it? This puts a big cloud not only on Margarito but boxing. I'm hoping Naseem was just crying wolf like he did against Tito because this puts our sport in a bad place. Thats actually the main point I think about the whole situation. This is bigger then Marg/tito and other fighters. Everytime a fighter has been caught its usually the trainner of the opposing team who catches it. I haven't heard of any commissioned watchmen spot anything. This is why I feel that its very possible Marg has got away with it before, but now that am calmed down about it. I like to wait before the investigation is done to right marg off.

I remain neutral until the investigation is complete and I say again as I have in other posts, I hope there was no wrongdoing. But one thing that comes to mind is the gauze type of material they use for splinting. I injured my fourth metacarpal a few months back, and they have this hardening material that looks like gauze but contains hardening fibers in between layers. It comes in different sizes and they cut it to the desired length. It is soft like a pad or gauze until they place it in warm water then they apply it, I read places that it starts to harden in ten minutes but from my experience it took closer to twenty. (probably depends on the size of the piece) Once it hardens it's rock solid, it is white like gauze and is relatively thin even when it solidifies. I still hold my reservations as to what exactly was found in the wraps but I figured some might find this interesting considering all the speculating goin' round. http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/shifty_winds/80790.jpg

I saw a fight where they basically pulled Marg's wraps off, I have it I think it was the Williams fight maybe, I can look to make sure. If you cut them down the inside of the wrist to the hand you can pull them off. Other than that I can't see how it could be done. Then again I've been wrong before so who knows.

Did you read the Naazim interview? He said it was plaster and it was bricked up with blood on it. Why would you need to use preused gauze, the cheapest thing you can buy. I'l will take the word of the Criminal Dept over his..so we will see.. It was pre used by Margarito, I dont know why they pre fer it.. but he and his camp dont seem concerned about the truth comimg out you didnt hear NAzEEM SAY a word.. every article out there is different w/different quotes....

Did you read the Naazim interview? He said it was plaster and it was bricked up with blood on it. Why would you need to use preused gauze, the cheapest thing you can buy. I got to say, anytime I ever fought I had to cut my wraps off. It is impossible to just undo them. Im still reserving judgement, but things look pretty damning for Margarito one way or another.

If a magician can make things disappear and appear with you watching surely a seasoned trainer if he wanted to could slip something the same color as the tape and gauze into a wrap. The commission was on hand in the Resto incident. But if this was a non-issue it wouldnt have gotten this far, something was there, you can bet that. Hey, You make valid points. I seriously doubt there was plaster in his wrap and the CSAC is taking pre cautionary steps to make sure too by testing the wraps. Thats why the Cali Crimininal Dept is testing them, they have the forensic tools to do so.. they arent criminaly persuing Margo.. just simpley TESTING the wraps.... Im confident that the guaze was what Marg's camp said it was, just pre used gauze, which isnt illegal..

Ok, my bad, and maybe you're right about the investigation. My point is there are different ways to cheat when wrapping hands and I would bet most top level trainers know most of them, while these figure heads from the boxing commisions actually know very little. I know this because I almost went to work as a boxing inspector at Foxwoods Casino and as much time as I've spent either in or around the sport, I don't know shit about the different ways to tape hands. I knew a guy who was an inspector who had no background in boxing whatsoever other than to watch it on tv. So if it happens in one place it bound to happen in another. Peace. I hear you and agree with all your saying.

I just don't get it. I've watched the video where Resto refuses to take his gloves off after the fight because his hands where wrapped illegally and padding was removed from the gloves. I just don't get how this happens though! Isn't someone from the athletic commission supposed to overlook the fighters and trainers while they are wrapping the hands? Was Margarito's plaster mixed before hand or on the spot and if so why didn't someone catch this if it indeed happened? Is the commission that careless, and if they are then who knows how many other fighters rig there wraps to have an unfair advantage? I don't like this doubt man.. This whole thing just ****ed things up for me. If Margarito or Capatillo did indeed get plaster past the commission.. n would not have been caught where it for Naz, who knows how many times they have done it? Who knows if others have done it? This puts a big cloud not only on Margarito but boxing. I'm hoping Naseem was just crying wolf like he did against Tito because this puts our sport in a bad place. naazim did not cry wolf with tito... tito had his hands wrapped illegally just like margarito... but the verdict is still out on if he used plaster

Why would they have seen it? If you think that then its safe to say that nobody has used such a substance and gotten away with it and the Luis Resto incident is all fabrication. Assuming things have caused empires to fall. cause they were watching.. I dont know that there was a comission watching Resto wrap...I dont know Luis Resto or when this happend or the circumstances around it hell sometimes hbo does some filming in the locker room when fighters are being wrapped.

man what they did was so ****ed up. fuking assholes look how that jimmy rollings kid ended up. http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/billycollins.jpg this is pretty disturbing. It's Billy Collins.... I'm giving Margo the benefit of the doubt until this investigation us finished. If he's guilty, well shit I used to be a huge fan of his.... not anymore...

im not.. my point is I dont think thier was any plaster or the commision would have spotted it... the whole investigation to weather he tried to cheat is based on weather or not he had a plaster substance on his or in his gauze. Ok, my bad, and maybe you're right about the investigation. My point is there are different ways to cheat when wrapping hands and I would bet most top level trainers know most of them, while these figure heads from the boxing commisions actually know very little. I know this because I almost went to work as a boxing inspector at Foxwoods Casino and as much time as I've spent either in or around the sport, I don't know shit about the different ways to tape hands. I knew a guy who was an inspector who had no background in boxing whatsoever other than to watch it on tv. So if it happens in one place it bound to happen in another. Peace.

Boxing commissions are not immune to incompetence, apathy and corruption. There is no knight in shining armor in this sport, it's every man for themselves.

First off, I don't recall there being any proof that plaster was used yet. Second, can a child tell the difference between tape on gauze and tape on tape? Could you? I doubt it. So stop jumping to conclussions. im not.. my point is I dont think thier was any plaster or the commision would have spotted it... the whole investigation to weather he tried to cheat is based on weather or not he had a plaster substance on his or in his gauze.

I think a child can tell the difference bewteen plaster and cotton. First off, I don't recall there being any proof that plaster was used yet. Second, can a child tell the difference between tape on gauze and tape on tape? Could you? I doubt it. So stop jumping to conclussions.

I just don't get it. I've watched the video where Resto refuses to take his gloves off after the fight because his hands where wrapped illegally and padding was removed from the gloves. I just don't get how this happens though! Isn't someone from the athletic commission supposed to overlook the fighters and trainers while they are wrapping the hands? Was Margarito's plaster mixed before hand or on the spot and if so why didn't someone catch this if it indeed happened? Is the commission that careless, and if they are then who knows how many other fighters rig there wraps to have an unfair advantage? I don't like this doubt man.. This whole thing just ****ed things up for me. If Margarito or Capatillo did indeed get plaster past the commission.. n would not have been caught where it for Naz, who knows how many times they have done it? Who knows if others have done it? This puts a big cloud not only on Margarito but boxing. I'm hoping Naseem was just crying wolf like he did against Tito because this puts our sport in a bad place. Margs wanted to get caught of that.. its all over this thread: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241213 Could be an Alibi.

What many don't understand is that ANYBODY can get a job with a boxing commision as an inspector. It is part time work, and these guys are only loosely trained. A saavy trainer who knows all the tricks of the trade can get away with a lot if an inspector or the guy from the other corner doesnt know what to look for. Obviously Nazeem does. I think a child can tell the difference bewteen plaster and cotton.

yeah unless the supervisor is an idiot and didnt see it, but for every fight theres a supervisor from the commision there inspecting the wrappings. What many don't understand is that ANYBODY can get a job with a boxing commision as an inspector. It is part time work, and these guys are only loosely trained. A saavy trainer who knows all the tricks of the trade can get away with a lot if an inspector or the guy from the other corner doesnt know what to look for. Obviously Nazeem does.

how did panama lewis do it with resco then though? it happens if it true about mags someone was not doing his job.

how did panama lewis do it with resco then though? man what they did was so ****ed up. fuking assholes look how that jimmy rollings kid ended up. http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/billycollins.jpg this is pretty disturbing.

An aside- this has nothing to do with anything: How does one take steroids if one is tested for it? If you can solve this little logic puzzle my friend, we can stop making goofy Margie defense threads like these. you are not too bright, sir.