Following the discovery of the illegal wraps on Margarito's fists I wonder if anybody has noticed what happened to the wraps in other Margarito fights.
I'm thinking of the fights with Cotto and Cintron.
Some fighters takes the gloves off and cut the wrappings free in the ring following a fight. Can somebody tell me if Margarito's gloves and wraps was taken off in the ring in front of the camera?
I doubt if they were. I gotta feeling they weren't off untill he reached the privacy of his locker...
it simple... they should test to see if the bloodstain on the gauze is cotto's, then we'll know for sure if it was used in the cotto fight.
I don't know but maybe the gloves that they wear over the wraps might stop Cotto's blood from getting on Margo's wraps.
IF the wrap indeed did have blood on it, then put it like this.
1. Tony used the same substance in the Mosley fight because the blood was obtiained from the Cotto fight.
Why?
it simple... they should test to see if the bloodstain on the gauze is cotto's, then we'll know for sure if it was used in the cotto fight.
That and it's not like the NVSAC is going to be like "Oh shit, we ****ed up."
Of course they are going to say Margarito was clean so it doesn't make them look bad.
but this dude got what looks like proof of wrong doing...
cotto should get his lawyers to put pressure on the NVSAC to investigate.
cotto fans should donate money to the cause to get cotto's undefeated record back... that is if they really care.
IF the wrap indeed did have blood on it, then put it like this.
1. Tony used the same substance in the Mosley fight because the blood was obtiained from the Cotto fight.
Why?
That's true. I also stated that it wouldnt prove anything. But if he had them taken off in the ring in front of the cameras he would basically be cleared of suspicion in those fights.
True. :fing02:
Leaving wraps on after the fight doesn't mean much of anything though, a lot of fighters keep their wraps on until they get back to the dressing room.
That's true. I also stated that it wouldnt prove anything. But if he had them taken off in the ring in front of the cameras he would basically be cleared of suspicion in those fights.
They are cut off to improve circulation, some leave them half on but they aren't kept on usually.
yes they are
I would say about 60% of the time, they are left on.
Sometimes they are cut off, I think. Not totally sure.
They are cut off to improve circulation, some leave them half on but they aren't kept on usually.
Following the discovery of the illegal wraps on Margarito's fists I wonder if anybody has noticed what happened to the wraps in other Margarito fights.
I'm thinking of the fights with Cotto and Cintron.
Some fighters takes the gloves off and cut the wrappings free in the ring following a fight. Can somebody tell me if Margarito's gloves and wraps was taken off in the ring in front of the camera?
I doubt if they were. I gotta feeling they weren't off untill he reached the privacy of his locker...
he had to keep them on....the chainsaw is in the locker room...
There's no way to tell by a picture. Chances are if they were as hard as concrete people would notice when they shook hands with him after the Cotto victory.
http://blog.mlive.com/mayweather/2007/12/large_fight12.jpg
Mayweathers wraps look loose and you can see a softness to them. Margarito's look tight, compacted and they look more like cast than actual wraps.
That and it's not like the NVSAC is going to be like "Oh shit, we ****ed up."
Of course they are going to say Margarito was clean so it doesn't make them look bad.
Oh yeah. A lot of pressure on them. I hope some independant authority (read police) will do the investigation. The NVSAC will have a conflict of interest since they can be accused of negligence here.
Still I cannot believe that gauze is not supplied by the commision. If it where there would be less chance of controversy.
Here's more on the wraps and what I was describing with the colour of them as apparently old;
One insider reported that the pre-treated gauze may have been treated with plaster and then dried. When used as a wrap it would still bend, but contain dried plaster that could be wetted after application. It would give an outward appearance of being perhaps old, dusty gauze that would or could be easily passed by the untrained eye. But once re-wetted, it would activate the dried plaster and bond to each layer below and form a loaded glove.
http://www.e astside boxing.com/news.php?p=18567&more=1
That and it's not like the NVSAC is going to be like "Oh shit, we ****ed up."
Of course they are going to say Margarito was clean so it doesn't make them look bad.
I find it particularly interesting that;
-Margarito's team admitted they pre treat gauze. That seems very odd, what possible reason is there for pre treating gauze, what with and why, plus why not make that clear to people before hand if it's innocent, so to not be accused of such a thing? They were willing to say it now when pressed, so why not earlier?
-Marg did not remove his wraps in the ring or in public for either the Cotto, or Cintron fights where a lot of damage was done with the similar power of what he landed on some other opponents. Plus, he's shown he doesn't mind taking a wrap or two off pre 2007 when he didn't bash up opponents quite so bad, so consistently.
-The colour of Marg's wraps seem to be a duller white then usual. This further suggests there's something in it for me. Wraps are a clean white and normally stay fairly white even after a long fight, see many other peoples. Not only are they a duller grey kinda colour almost, but it is consistent so not really dirt. This makes the apparent use of old wraps looks further dodgey to me, because old dirty wraps are less white so it's normal, great way to hide it. I don't know, but why else use old ones, it's another thing that's odd. They wouldn't be so consistently dirty and another colour.
-The wraps seem to be less elasticated which they have to be, and thus don't seem to 'cling' to Margs wrists as tightly as you'll see others in pics. In one of those pics you can see a slightly different colour where the end of the wrap is as if there's a gap between his skin and the wrap when he clenches a certain way. That to me suggests it's not elasticated and clinging to the skin as it should, but set in a position (its consistently shaped all over too oddly) leaving and developing, gaps.
I've been reluctant to speak out on this, but it's been 3 days and it's a definite possibility we can't rely on a commission or anything to really reveal the truth, these are all natural comparisons and very interesting.
pre fight????why the hell would he not have on gloves pre fight???
Nevermind, I just assumed it was since he was wearing that thick fur lined robe. Didn't think he would wear it after a fight because of the heat.
Yeah but I don't get that part. Why re-use some old hardened gauze? Why not make something new?
Maybe it wasn't blood but some other red colored substance.
Yea Floyd's are loose and puffy. Marg's literally look like casts.
That's because the PBF picture was pre-fight. I'm sure they will compact and look harder after the fight like Tony's.
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