Thoughts on if boxing is struggling and why

I think boxing is doing well, we have plenty of great fighters in the game still, and a lot of up and coming talent. Also the first big fight of this year (Berto-Collazo) showed boxing is still on top. The corruption between all of these organizations is the biggest annoyance though. (WBA, WBO, etc.) Agreed. These sanctioning bodies are messing boxing up. Boxing has big names Pacman, Hatton, Calzaghe, De La Hoya MAyweather Jr. Not to mention greats JMM, Hopkins, Klitchko, Mosley, Margarito, Vazquez. Up and coming exciting fighters JuanMa, Haye, Valero, Gamboa, Kirkland, Gamboa, Arreola. I know I missed alot of boxers the point is Boxing is Good now. Get it on regular Tv once a week it will be mainstreem fast.

i understand everybody on here loves boxing but the bottom line is to keep a sport aired on any program may it be ppv hbo espn showtime whatever else,, it requires money right, so dont you think that if it keeps happing then it will get worse for the amount of airtime it gets if its not drawing in the kind of attention another sport can draw in

He's talking about major fights, not contenders or replays of fights from 10 years ago. Don't you think it would serve us well from an exposure standpoint, to have Margarito/Mosley on free television tomorrow? Of course it would, however, thats simply not the case. Maybe I just don't care about how many fans boxing has as long as I enjoy the sport like others do. Hiphop music was better when it wasn't the most popular form of music in america. Boxing is doing just fine.

ESPN shows plenty of Showtime cards. I've seen Chico, Vazquez, Margarito, Floyd, etc. Yeah, I feel you on the older fights... which is why if ESPN ever has another PPV (Don't think they've done one since Cotto-Malinnagi)... you ALL better buy just to support a network that brings us free fights. Anyways, I'm out guys... catch you all later. Only 24 more hours until MARGARITO-MOSLEY!!!

Damn... I need whatever ESPN channel you've got. I mean, I have ESPN, ESPN II, and Classic.. I get FNF on 2... and old fights on Classic. But I want the ESPN channel that is showing the top names of TODAY free to world on a daily basis. ESPN shows plenty of Showtime cards. I've seen Chico, Vazquez, Margarito, Floyd, etc.

I can watch boxing everyday on ESPN. There are just so many options for sports these days that were never there before. Damn... I need whatever ESPN channel you've got. I mean, I have ESPN, ESPN II, and Classic.. I get FNF on 2... and old fights on Classic. But I want the ESPN channel that is showing the top names of TODAY free to world on a daily basis.

Go to the 2nd page of this thread and read my post... I'm about 5 posts ahead of you on explaining myself. But the world isn't all to blame... thats why I said the "availability" of the sport... or lack thereof... is hurting it the most. Serious KUDOS need to be given to Arum for making this Marg-Mosley free tv... and dirt cheap to attend. Thats what boxing needs more of... and GBP will NOT give it to us. I can watch boxing everyday on ESPN. There are just so many options for sports these days that were never there before.

The financial sector of the world is struggling guy. Go to the 2nd page of this thread and read my post... I'm about 5 posts ahead of you on explaining myself. But the world isn't all to blame... thats why I said the "availability" of the sport... or lack thereof... is hurting it the most. Serious KUDOS need to be given to Arum for making this Marg-Mosley free tv... and dirt cheap to attend. Thats what boxing needs more of... and GBP will NOT give it to us.

im curious what about stacking fight cards i would love to see a stacked fight card, what do you guys think

yes, but you've chosen the one exception. Look, I'm not saying boxing is sick at the moment... I WORSHIP the sport. But its not like I'm revealing classified information. Arum, Goosen, GBP, and King have all said that the financial sector of the sport is struggling. The people at HBO have said the exact same thing. The fights are as good if not better than they have every been. The sports marketability has definately taken a hit. Arum also cut ticket prices in half for Marg-Mosley in order to sell out the Staples Center. The financial sector of the world is struggling guy.

As an undying lover of this sport though, I can't deny that it has lost it's market appeal. I blame it on all the great fights being either on PPV or premium channels (HBO, Showtime). Can you imagine how many fans we would have if they showed the Vazquez/Marquez trilogy on free television? Thats all I was trying to say brother... People like to knock on the "casual" fans, but its the casual fans that make the difference between a 200,000 PPV buy fight and a 2,000,000 PPV buy fight. The die-hards are going to buy regardless.

no i dont believe what writers fight and i understand that the past year did have good fights some great i understand all these things but the bottom line is take for instance dont get angry that i referred to this its just some thoughts look in the mixed martial arts world its not perfect i know this but the fact is that they put on the fights fans want to see im not only talking about just the main event they put on great fights in almost every fight card im not talking about if you like the sport or not im just aying for what it is they put on great fights, all there top fighters in each weight class has fought each other at least once and they havent they continually schedulling these fights to happen, you almost never here of fighters complaining that there arent gonna get paid enough or they should get a better split of any pot, management isnt so involved with putting together fights some mixed martial arts organizations are but as for the ufc the have a person in charge with other people around that decides who fights who, i know the mixed martial arts world is not flawed but so far its working hopefully they keep doing what there doing for that, i do agree this year looks promising for boxing and i hope it does work out. im a boxing fan as well as a mixed martial arts fan so dont get upset remember its just internet writing just looking for more comments

boxing is coming back, promoters are starting to realise we wont watch crap fights anymore so we are being treated to fights like berto-collazo, margarito-mosely, pacquiao-hatton (its on right lol), diaz-marquez etc the UFC has actually been good for boxing, its been a reminder for boxing that it needs to keep making good fights in order to stay on top in america and the sport is flourishing in europe, the UK and parts of Asia (Japan, Phillipines, Thailand- not as popular as muay thai there but still popular- China is starting to host more pro boxing, Russia is quite involved too....... boxing is really starting to get stronger again PERFECT POST... If I had green, I'd float it your way haha

Exactly, I'm still wondering what boxing needs to be saved from or why its in a slump. We're in 2009, there are many more options for entertainment than there was in the 40s and 50s, and still, boxing continues. I don't know what writer said it but he basically said that people were saying boxing was dying back then. He also said hes still waiting for that to happen. I think this MMA and UFC epidemic has driven people to the conclusion that "boxing is dying".

To ANYONE and EVERYONE: We are not saying that the quality of fights has gone down! We, as boxing fans are all on the same team! It is the market value of the sport that is struggling right now. Now, thats most likely a result of the overall economy struggling, but the point is, that sector of boxing is definately struggling. Lets face it, if love of the sport makes up half the heart of boxing, the other half is the lucrative opportunities it offers. So, I don't pretend to speak for you Europeans, because I don't know as much about your economy right now. But for us Americans, if you don't think the market value of the sport is in a bit of a slump... slowly and carefully remove your head from your ass.

I don't see boxing struggling...Infact, i can't seem to see the competition MMA poses. Maybe i'm clueless or something. But boxing hasn't been this exciting in a while. The Welterweight division is a fun division with amazing charismatic fighters like Clottey, Cotto, Marg, Judah, Mosley, Mayweather (he's coming back for his crown) and possibly Pac. As of now, that division is carrying boxing firmly on its feet....and Heavyweight division looks promising w/ Haye, and sadly the Ukrainians...i'm look for the Nigerian Nightmare's comback. Middleweight is also appealing w/ Taylor, Bute, Froch, Pavlik, Kessler etc....Lightweight still has the Marquez bros and many more...... And with polarizing trainers like Floyd Sr, Robert, Legendary Stewart, and slow Roach...ALL THAT DRAMA MAKES FOR GOOD BOXING I dunno...Boxing seems fine to me

I think Boxing lives and dies by it's heavyweight divsion, and today's is about the lamest of all time.

How is boxing in a slump? The highest grossing fight ever was less than 2 years ago. Staples is practically sold out for two fighters who apparently aren't draws. yes, but you've chosen the one exception. Look, I'm not saying boxing is sick at the moment... I WORSHIP the sport. But its not like I'm revealing classified information. Arum, Goosen, GBP, and King have all said that the financial sector of the sport is struggling. The people at HBO have said the exact same thing. The fights are as good if not better than they have every been. The sports marketability has definately taken a hit. Arum also cut ticket prices in half for Marg-Mosley in order to sell out the Staples Center.

I think boxing is doing well, we have plenty of great fighters in the game still, and a lot of up and coming talent. Also the first big fight of this year (Berto-Collazo) showed boxing is still on top. The corruption between all of these organizations is the biggest annoyance though. (WBA, WBO, etc.) Exactly, I'm still wondering what boxing needs to be saved from or why its in a slump. We're in 2009, there are many more options for entertainment than there was in the 40s and 50s, and still, boxing continues. I don't know what writer said it but he basically said that people were saying boxing was dying back then. He also said hes still waiting for that to happen.

I don't think anyone can deny its in a slump. I think the main reason is the availability of the sport. People talk about MMA being on the rise... of course, there are HUGE matches (for MMA standards) on ****e tv. Other than ESPN 2 and the occasional bout on VS. Boxing isn't available like it used to be. Even after HBO and Showtime subscriptions, the world has still gone PPV crazy! Boxing is in the shadows, whereas it used to be in the spotlight. How is boxing in a slump? The highest grossing fight ever was less than 2 years ago. Staples is practically sold out for two fighters who apparently aren't draws.