Mosley can beat Margarito if.........

i see the nazeem factor being important here, marg and pavlik are very similar fighters (although marg has a better array of punches) and nazeem will have sugar shane fighting the smart fight rather than going toe to toe. alot of ppl are saying that cotto seemed to forget going to the body? wtf is that all about, cotto is a great body puncher and he knows it - so why would he all of a sudden forget or choose to ignore going to the body?!!?!? its not because he forgot its because he couldn't. marg is a big guy with a good height and reach advantage yet despite that he is at his best on the inside. when the fight is up close and personal marg prefers it. also vs cotto he was holding his right hand and his right elbow very low protecting the body on purpose, this took away cottos best punch (left hook to the body). in case cotto did try and land the left hook to the body marg could shoot and uppercut with his right or come across with his left hook. there is one thing though which cotto did far too much off imo, he was too easily backed up. he fought off the ropes at every oppottunity instead of fighting in the pocket and only going to the ropes when need be. imo this is why i like sugar's chances, sugar will be willing to fight in the pocket and hes more of a fighter/warrior than cotto so i dont see him being backed up so much. he'll fight in the pocket and look to counter marg and then move, also i see him using more lateral movement something which again cotto faled to do in the fight. throw in the fact that sugar shane is tougher and generally better conditioned (to my knowledge never had any problems with stamina) and i think the fight stops looking so straightforward. yes suagr is 37 now but i just think that as a great fighter he has one more great fight in him.

Yeah, I don't think so either, which is why I fancy Marg. I just keep thinking that there's a reason he went with Nazeem, like maybe he saw the number B-Hop did on Pavlik, and knows that fighting like he did against Cotto and Mayorga is not gonna cut it against Marg. It's probably too late in the day for Shane to change, anyroad. Yep, Shane has never been that kind of fighter.

The main reason why Cotto lost IS because he forgot all about the body. It seemed that Cotto was amazed that Margarito was taking all of his punches straight in the mouth. He completely forgot about the body. The only way Mosley can win the fight is to break Margarito down like a tree. Still, Margarito wins by KO. Once again, Miguel Cotto could not find an opening to the body! The only way Mosley can beat Margarito is by using his speed to his advantage, time Margarito with nice counters, clinch when needed, and outbox him. Don't try to outpunch him, try to neutralize his workrate by moving clock wise and then counterclock wise, be first and try not to let him get off as much as he usually does. It won't happen though, I think Antonio got this, but I would be suprised if Mosley won though.

Cotto never really invested in body punching in that fight though. Mosley has the beard and the power to stand infront of Margarito and take a chance of going down stairs. He never did because he couldn't. Margarito defended his body because he trained and prepared very well.

Mosley wont run, because he has never been a runner he has always been an offensive boxer /puncher and i dont think he will change up in this fight.

I don't. Why exert all of your energy as Cotto did in retreat the entire night? It makes no sense when you can cover up properly and clinch on the inside when it gets a little rough. Sure it's harder than I say but Shane has the experience to do it I believe. i dont think cotto was sticking and moving because he wanted too.. cotto is a pressure fighter even more than mosley is, and he was forced to stick and move... because marg can take your best punch all night long... he throws 100+ a round, from all different angles and he only seems to gain momentum in the later rounds Your not going to out brawl margarito... shane might be able to beat him to the punch for a little bit.. when rounds 6,7,8,9 come around... shane will start wearing down, and he wont be hurting margarito at all... marg will win those exchanges. he can take your punch, you cant necessarily take his. I do agree that mosley takes more punishment than Cotto... but you also need the stamina to keep up with marg's workrate jus to win the fight.. let alone survive. Lets keep in mind, Moslye is 37 years old. Theres only so many rounds Shane can stand there and trade with margarito, and keep up with the workrate as well, to win a round...

I don't. Why exert all of your energy as Cotto did in retreat the entire night? It makes no sense when you can cover up properly and clinch on the inside when it gets a little rough. Sure it's harder than I say but Shane has the experience to do it I believe. Agreed. Also by surrendering ground you are giving Margarito the opportunity to put all his weight on his front foot so he can get more leaverage to punch even harder.

shane would need to stick and move for 12 rounds....minimize exchanges...stay away from the ropes....clinch when margs lets loose and he needs to stay composed for the entire fight That's what I was thinking. Throw flurries and get out!

im not saying That particular way of fighting marg wouldnt work... but 37 yr old shane doing it, i think is a different story... he was gassing against mayorga, and mayorga hardly pressed the fight... mosley will have a bigger man constantly walking him down and allowing him no rest time, and he wont stop throwing punches if mosley is set... the more the fight goes on, the more margarito seems to smoke, and the more mosley seems to run out of steam... Yeah some good points. I dont think Shane will win either, but if he has any chance he MUST go to the body, hit the arms elbows what ever.

I think backing up is shanes only chance... standing there would seal his fate I don't. Why exert all of your energy as Cotto did in retreat the entire night? It makes no sense when you can cover up properly and clinch on the inside when it gets a little rough. Sure it's harder than I say but Shane has the experience to do it I believe.

im not saying That particular way of fighting marg wouldnt work... but 37 yr old shane doing it, i think is a different story... he was gassing against mayorga, and mayorga hardly pressed the fight... mosley will have a bigger man constantly walking him down and allowing him no rest time, and he wont stop throwing punches if mosley is set... the more the fight goes on, the more margarito seems to smoke, and the more mosley seems to run out of steam...

I think backing up is shanes only chance... standing there would seal his fate I dont think standing infront of Marg is the thing to do, but fighting in the pocket and constantly moving over AFTER punching (with speed) to avoid the counters, could work.

That margarito didnt leave the body open... he specifically said he tried... but the openings just werent there, he said he thinks margarito worked on covering the body... and knew he could take the punches to the face lol... seriously though he said that about the body... and if anyone knows how to goto the body its Cotto. I take what Cotto said, but i think it was ALSO a case of this what lefhooktodabody said. Originally Posted by lefhooktodabody View Post Shane is a worker. I think he may be able to go to the body. Because I don't think he'll back up as much as Cotto did. When you back up as Cotto did it's hard to set your feet and dig into the body.

Shane is a worker. I think he may be able to go to the body. Because I don't think he'll back up as much as Cotto did. When you back up as Cotto did it's hard to set your feet and dig into the body. I think Shane will back up some but he'll probably stay in the middle and fight on the inside. I can see Shane ripping to the body but he'll have to take some to give some. I think backing up is shanes only chance... standing there would seal his fate

Shane is a worker. I think he may be able to go to the body. Because I don't think he'll back up as much as Cotto did. When you back up as Cotto did it's hard to set your feet and dig into the body. I think Shane will back up some but he'll probably stay in the middle and fight on the inside. I can see Shane ripping to the body but he'll have to take some to give some. Precisely my point. Good post.

What did he way? That margarito didnt leave the body open... he specifically said he tried... but the openings just werent there, he said he thinks margarito worked on covering the body... and knew he could take the punches to the face lol... seriously though he said that about the body... and if anyone knows how to goto the body its Cotto.

Shane is a worker. I think he may be able to go to the body. Because I don't think he'll back up as much as Cotto did. When you back up as Cotto did it's hard to set your feet and dig into the body. I think Shane will back up some but he'll probably stay in the middle and fight on the inside. I can see Shane ripping to the body but he'll have to take some to give some.

Theres a reason Cotto didnt goto the body and he talked about it specifically. It wasn't just because he forgot. What did he say?

Thats the same thing they said about Cotto. Cotto who is notorious for his body punching couldn't get it done. Agreed. But Mosley's ability to take a better punch may make him willing to take the risks necessary to go to Tony's body. Still, I doubt it.

The main reason why Cotto lost IS because he forgot all about the body. It seemed that Cotto was amazed that Margarito was taking all of his punches straight in the mouth. He completely forgot about the body. The only way Mosley can win the fight is to break Margarito down like a tree. Still, Margarito wins by KO.