Is Hatton elite or a B class fighter

A level above B class. ANd a level below A. B+

What makes Calzaghe an elite fighter, but not Hatton? I ain't being funny, but both fighters styles aren't easy on the eye and both have similar resumes? IMO Hatton has fought better opposition. I don't think either of em are elite fighters, am just saying.

hes not bad his only loss was to mayweather...he beat malignaggi who i considered the best at 140(not a hatton fan)i put him in the elite column

only fighter i give hatton credit for was Kostya and even thats debatable. hatton was dirty in that fight and i never respected him after that performance. i had Kostya up on the scorecards and Kostya had a lot of things against him in that fight like age, time of the fight and training. i just wish Johnny Lewis let him finish the fight and hatton wouldn't be where he is now. to answer the question of the thread, at best he is a B+ fighter. i dont even see hatton making the hall of fame. imagine hatton didnt come from the UK, therefore the following he has. he would just be another slugger and probably wouldnt have received the opportunities and recognition he has received in his career.

What makes Hatton special is his ability to draw fans and generate revenue, plus the fact that he is exciting. Hatton has always been the highest regarded of a weak weight division (140 pounds), largely due to his victory over a past his prime Kostya Tszyu, who retired on his stool and never fought again. His attempts to move up in weight have been less than successful and other than the Malignaggi fight, against an opponent who posed no threat to him, he has failed to look good in any of his subsequent fights. I don't put much stock into the Castillo fight because few will argue that he looked good in his previous fight with Ngoudjo. More would argue that he had lost, in fact. This post is spot on. Hatton is pretty much a B fighter really.

No, are you joking? Can't sustain energy due to age, etc? Did you not see the Pavlik fight? Were you not just reading the recent posts? Woa, woa, woa. Stop right there. I have almost all of the recent Hatton fights recorded and watch them every now and then and if you seem to mention that Lederman said he was "hook and hold" Hatton, you will also recall that the other commentators said in response that it was the opponent who was initiating the holding and not Hatton. Either way I don't expect you to be able to see this in an objective way because you have already clearly made it apparent that your posts are more of an objective to critisize Ricky as opposed to understand others opinions. Either way, our convo is over. -Peace. Yeah i did see the Pavlik fight. One of the main reasons Hopkins won, because it was a snails pace. Yeah and he replied 90% of it is Hatton, which was correct. Hatton is notorious for holding everyone knows that.

In that fight, he absolutely was. But see the fights where he was facing an offensive expert like the Calzaghe fight. Another example was the Tarver fight. Hopkins knows when to hold and so does Hatton. The difference is that when B-hop does it, it's considered greatness but when Hatton does it, it is considered boring, etc..... Did you notice that Ricky didn't hold much at all against certain fighters like Malignaggi and Castillo? There was not as much of a need to. hatton knew that and he uses different tactics against different fighters. That's a skill and not a one dimentional tick. No it is considered more acceptable, because Hatton is a young man compared to Hopkins. Its virtually physically impossible for Hopkins body to fight at a sustained high pace these days. Are you joking ? Hatton did nothing but hold against Castillo and there were only 4 rounds in the fight. Why do you think Lederman was calling him hook and hold Ricky Hatton?

Wouldn't the best Jr WW be an elite fighter? I mean lets be real Hatton is not too small for the 147lbs division. Its just, like Margarito, Hatton needs to be physically bigger and stronger than his oponents, because he lacks the skills to be successful any other way at a higher weight. I mean Hatton would of lost to Collazo if he had not caught him off balance in the first round.

Wouldn't the best Jr WW be an elite fighter? Depends if the div is lacking talent or at least proven talent. That is how i view the LWW division at the moment.

He aint even close to being my favourite fighter,but I curse because I know Bullshit when I smell it. Question who is this then ? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/member.php?u=111122

He can perform, but the moment he stops overwhelming his guy is when he's vulnerable. His chin and stamina and defense is pretty bad. Him and Paq actually share some similarities, both have issues with smart fast handed fighters and both of their biggest wins we're against older guys with big names. Now is he an elite fighter? I don't think so. A fight with the smaller Paq is still a toss up fight lol. If Hatton was elite while bein this much bigger than Paq (A: Paq wouldn't be fighting him lmao), I think the general perception of the fight would be in Hatton's favor, when it's really just a toss up fight. So nah I don't think he's elite. If your elite at 140 someone like Paq shouldn't be able to f#$% with you. You'd be too strong and fast for the smaller Paq. But in this case of these two fighting, Paq is probably faster and might have a better chin. I mean since Hatton came out west he's been gettin rocked by alot of guys he would have plowed through if he was elite. Blah, blah, blah.... Don't you know that your opinions are worthless to anyone in boxingscene. Viva la rasa ese!!!!!

definately an elite fighter. even if you hate him you have to admit it. No hate here i just dont think he is as good as you dio.

You reckon so? I'm surprised people think Hatton is much bigger. I'm pretty sure Pac has bigger biceps, thighs, calf muscles, neck, etc. I bet you Hatton outweighs Paqcuiao by about 35 pounds right now

definately an elite fighter. even if you hate him you have to admit it.

Racism is vile,whether it is thinly disguised or sledgehammer obvious,whether its white on black,or black on white.Its a little bit obvious when you have a wall covered in black fighters and a white chick with her gash out on your avatar.Have a word with yourself,I know I have hit a raw nerve,but today was a good day for the world..a day for change.maybe you can change too. I guess it would be obvious, if the majority of the best fighters throughout history were not black :lol1: If you hit a nerve i would of been swearing like you wouldn't i ?

:bottle: Its an honour to be called a fanboy by someone with so many posters on their wall! Yeah, because having pics of your favourite fighters makes you more of a fanboy than someone (YOU) who starts getting angry and posting swear words, because someone has criticized your fav fighter.

Im not a hater of Hatton, but i would not say i am a big fan of Hatton either, because his style is hard to watch. Should i be a fan and overrate him and make him out to be better than i think he is, because he is British like me? I dont care where a fighter comes from. Boxing is about entertainment to me and if the guy who entertains me more happens to be Rican, American,Cuban,Mexican i dont really care, because i like being entertained. Calzaghe is just a godamn fraud. The man beat to legendary fighters, because they are not who they were not, because he is a better fighter than either of them. That is why they are ATG and Joe will just be remembered as a very good fighter.

your english???? then there must be some other reason,because your arguments are one sided and not thought through.Furthermore,you started this thread,which as even the most avid hater of white british fighters would admit was started with the sole intention of dissing hatton,so with that in mind ,I would like to ask if you are white or black? How is this dissing Hatton Is Hatton elite or a B class fighter ? I think you can reign in a division and still not be an elite fighter. I dont view Chris Eubank as an elite fighter, but he was a very very good fighter/ champion, but to be elite you have to have that something extra imo. The real Superstars of Boxing are the elite and i dont think Hatton is in that bracket. Jones jr ,Toney,Calzaghe,Whitaker,Lewis,Holyfield,Mosley,JC C,Pacquiao,Barrera, Morales,Trinidad,DLH,...... etc etc Im asking a question and saying why I MYSELF dont think he is elite, which as ive already stated is still very very good bracket of fighter! I started ragging on Hatton, because you let your fanboy instincts take over by swearing a cursing, so i thought id piss you right off by going to town on Hatton , because you are a little nuthugger. Im black and i hate Hatton, because im black is that what you wanna hear :lol1::lol1:

This is why I class Ricky no higher than a strong B. His tenacity and fighting heart shouldn't go unmentioned, he's mixed it with and beaten some excellent comp and he isn't unskilled --- but his efforts at boxing's top level have been assisted by some serious rule-bending and forgiving officiating. Agreed thats the top and bottom of it. I dont hate Hatton, but at the minute i find myself ragging on him as a fighter, because his little fanboys are flooding this thread with their BS. B class means a very very good fighters in my book, but its just not up there with the cream of the div.

their is skill in holding, but it shouldnt be a part of your offensive strategy. Exactly! Its a defensive tactic which people accept, its part of the game when you are hurt etc. Hatton tries to put his weight on you so he can bang you or tie your hands up so he can bang you. 90% of Hatton's game is using illegal tactics and bending the rules, because he cant hang with these guys otherwise.