First of all. Props to both fighters. I was rooting for Lou. I personally can see it 114-113 either way, but trying to be unbiased on my second viewing, I scored it 114-113 Berto. I hope they do it again. Anyone who says Collazo is good, but not elite is nuts. He is world-class.
How did you score it? Poll to come...
i had it 114-113 for Collazo but i had no problem with the decision. Still i think Collazo in the middle rounds won a couple very clear rounds while the rounds that Berto won for the most part were very close that could have gone to either fighter. it was a very entertaining fight though and those crying Robbery are nuts and dont know the meaning of the word "Robbery"!
Just finished watching it, I had it 114-113 for Collazo. Berto's got heart but man did he get smacked around a lot in the opening rounds. It wasnt a robbery but I felt Collazo deserved this one based on combination punching and ring generalship
I had Collazo winning 114-113 both times I watched the fight. I can see 114-113 for Berto, but that 116-111 score was pretty far out there. That judge shouldn't be working any more championship fights.
116-111 was total crap, no way that fight could be scored like that for either fighter. That judge should never get another assignment.
yeah that just seems so off ^ and the funny thing is Clancy had a 116-111 score for Campbell-Diaz
all things considered even Collazo didn't go as far as calling the fight a robbery and or screw job (maybe cuz of fatigue at the time?)
however his corner before round 12 went as far as saying "the only way you lose is if we get robbed"
interesting contrast and IMO kinda a loser attitude if you ask me
as up to that point the fight (Berto-Collazo) had been fought relatively competitive with both men having won rounds.
this isn't Malignaggi-N'Dou 1 or De La Hoya vs Forbes here where winning the last round makes the score 118-110 rather then 119-109 or 120-108
and for Collazo's corner to simply say "the only way you lose is a robbery"
is under cutting the fact that this was a give and take fight where both men had won rounds.
Collazo's corner gave a very over inflated, misinformed view of the fight IMO.
and it just shows you how close the fight was.
makes that 116-111 score seem even more outta wack.
116-111 was total crap, no way that fight could be scored like that for either fighter. That judge should never get another assignment.
Same way I scored it, Letterman must have been asleep scoring the 7th for Collazo.
and it just shows you how close the fight was.
makes that 116-111 score seem even more outta wack.
yeah I scored it the same way as you.
**my scorecard went the same as Lederman's but I gave Berto rounds 6 and 7
if Lederman did the same, that 115-112 Collazo W flips to 114-113 for Berto.
of course im already taking into consideration Berto's deducted point for holding
Same way I scored it, Letterman must have been asleep scoring the 7th for Collazo.
I scored it 114-113 Berto.
I seem to have scored it the same as many who had it 114-114 Collazo, except I gave Berto the 1st. I felt Berto won the round clearly, Collazo only really landed one big shot.
yeah I scored it the same way as you.
**my scorecard went the same as Lederman's but I gave Berto rounds 6 and 7
if Lederman did the same, that 115-112 Collazo W flips to 114-113 for Berto.
of course im already taking into consideration Berto's deducted point for holding
I'm pretty sure people just last night that there were more then 14 people who had Berto winning. Notice how the Collazo backers are so focused on winning these polls.....so they vote away.
Some are even double voting with alts to make sure it isn't close. Ridiculous.
bro. whats with the conspiracy theories? you're coming out in every thread with this... i am one of collazo's biggest fans, and i said 114-113 berto, based on when i scored the fight with pencil in hand. i think it was extremely close though and at least 1 round, but as much as 2 could have gone to lou that i scored for berto, so it is not so far fetched that so many people, collazo fans and just-boxing-fans-in-general alike, saw collazo winning it. get over it!
I'm pretty sure people just last night that there were more then 14 people who had Berto winning. Notice how the Collazo backers are so focused on winning these polls.....so they vote away.
Some are even double voting with alts to make sure it isn't close. Ridiculous.
hahahaha. agreed. he must be on dibellas payroll too!Collazo didn't get robbed but like Oquendo and Glen Johnson and Emanue lAugustus he always seems to come up short in his big fights.Poor guy.And he really fought hard last night.Btw he looks like a white Casamayor in that pic(avatar)
I scored it 114-113 Berto.
I seem to have scored it the same as many who had it 114-114 Collazo, except I gave Berto the 1st. I felt Berto won the round clearly, Collazo only really landed one big shot.