well I guess I am not aware of these statistics, but I never thought Paulie had a chance against Ricky, not cause I'm nut-hugging, but in my honest opinion Paulie is not someone with the power to stop Ricky. Yea Cotto is a bomber we know that and Paulie has crazy heart (no doubt) but did you think he was going to win? screw what the 80% and 35% said. when you heard about the fight did you ever for a shadow of a doubt think that Paulie was going to bring it to Ricky? and we are talking about how this is viewed as far as asking for more money. Did you think those two wins in particular at this point in his career should have granted him the right for more money? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HIS OVERALL RECORD. but since his loss to Floyd I think he has been trying to work back to that invincible status.
What says you...the 80% and 35% was from polls taken on this forum on the subject.
80% said Paulie was the No2 in the LWW and Hatton should fight him.
the 35% was the Poll taken before the fight asking who would win and how.
I never said hatton was washed up. I thought Paulie is an decent fighter, but he is not deserving (in my opinion) of all his hype. but, I can see that my conversation will go nowhere since people are taking this as I am saying that hatton is a scrub. Just said I thought his last two fights were average and didn't grant him a passage to larger purses. His record goes without saying so don't take it as I am saying he's garbage.
well I guess I am not aware of these statistics, but I never thought Paulie had a chance against Ricky, not cause I'm nut-hugging, but in my honest opinion Paulie is not someone with the power to stop Ricky. Yea Cotto is a bomber we know that and Paulie has crazy heart (no doubt) but did you think he was going to win? screw what the 80% and 35% said. when you heard about the fight did you ever for a shadow of a doubt think that Paulie was going to bring it to Ricky? and we are talking about how this is viewed as far as asking for more money. Did you think those two wins in particular at this point in his career should have granted him the right for more money? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HIS OVERALL RECORD. but since his loss to Floyd I think he has been trying to work back to that invincible status.
What says you...
and if I am making stuff up please tell me what it is? I don't think I said he lost to paulie or juan, or he is unskilled or that he is a bum? nope, just gave my opinion. so what are you talking about my friend?well forgive me for being realistic here, but nobody expected hatton to how did you put it...
Knock malinaggi into the second row?
The guy went 8 round with a broken face against Cotto from christ sake, the only people who had Hatton for a Ko win where the hardcore nuthuggers and a smattering of people who thought he might be vulnerable to bodyshots.
he lost 2 rounds in two fights, one to the guy 80% of people said was the No2 in the division and 35% said would win, and yet he has problems? Jesus it's hard to please some folk...
and if I am making stuff up please tell me what it is? I don't think I said he lost to paulie or juan, or he is unskilled or that he is a bum? nope, just gave my opinion. so what are you talking about my friend?
I guess my point was that they were average wins. he didn't dominate these guys. he should have knocked Paulie's head off, and Lazcano most people (myself included) felt that it was a very lackluster performance. Im' not trying to take his wins away but come on, if you put those two fighters in the ring with Pac do you think they would have went the distance? Paulie would have fell probably 3 rounds earlier and the Lazcano match if anything would have just been a good boxing fight to watch and a chance for Pac to show off his skills. When I watch Hatton during that fight he looked like his basic movement was unsure, and like he was scared to punch. sometimes punching off balance. I didn't say he lost on the cards because come on, you can't always go off what the judges are scoring. Who knows what they are thinking sometimes.
not one mentions the fact that he had problems with two of his last fights. two WINS yesummm what exactly was his problem in the malinaggi fight?
he only lost 1 round, in fact come to think of it he only lost one round to Lazcano aswell.
Realistically who doesn't think that he should have been able to belt Paulie into the second row if he was truly The Hit-man and a force to be reckoned with.malinaggi had never been stopped, not even by Cotto, do you just make shit up or are you trying to be stupid deliberately?
IDK i have been watching and listening about Ricky Hatton for a while now and I still think that the guy suffers major mental issues from his loss to Floyd. All these posts that I read about Ricky and not one mentions the fact that he had problems with two of his last fights. two WINS yes, but he had to work for them, harder then he should have. Records aside, I think Ricky is on the downslide of his career and most would probably agree, and so he needs a big WIN over someone like Floyd or Pac. ONLY then.. I think he should be able to call his shots for a 60-\40 match and thats only if he wins. truthfully, I think he would need a Floyd and a Pac under his belt to get his own show, cause you don't come for the thrown with TWO average performances. I didn't see anyone raving over his win of Paulie Maglinaggi nor did anyone say he was back to his old self after he won the decision against Lazcano. Realistically who doesn't think that he should have been able to belt Paulie into the second row if he was truly The Hit-man and a force to be reckoned with. As for fan support they both probably have an equally sized following. Pacman is the rising star so of course people are going to say he deserves more money, not to mention he devastates his opponent and has way more classic fights then The Fat-man so he probably has a slight advantage (knocking of a great like DLH probably does him some good as well.) but I can't help but have a lingering feeling that he hasn't beat that one guy who everyone will have to respect him for. I am eating my words as Im' writing this because I am thinking of his fights with EM and the legendary matches against JMM. For myself though I think he needs to prove that he is without a shadow of a doubt The Alpha and Omega. when they say Pacman people shouldn't say, well he should fight this guy or that guy. they should be saying "Man, Pac is going to ruin that guy he doesn't stand a chance. Look at all the credit people gave Kelly Pavlik and OVERNIGHT B-Hop put him back in his place. so I guess after all that, I would agree that the 50/50 split is fair until one of them proves that he IS "The Man", and at least in this case neither has done more or is more deserving then the other. But..Pac's recent win against DLH probably gives him just a little bit of a edge for knocking off a great but not enough to ask for more money. Not to mention Pacman isn't even about money so this is probably coming from The Suits. Pac probably just wants to kick some ass and hand out more free turkeys to his people:) and give them a grand a week for losing weight..hahaha
And please don't be a smart ass and ask me if I know about his finances because i said his lawyers and managers are pushing for the money, I am only giving an opinion based on the character that Pac has shown on and off the screen
ok let me bring u up on facts..i said this is a pick em fight with the edge going to pacman..you huggers think its a walk in the park..but you'll soon see..and how will floyd be a joke he put the first lose on hattons record via ko...pacman's fighting floyds left overs
Floyd KO's Hatton not in his best weight... Manny will knock Hatton in his best weight and if Mayweather can't take out Hatton in the early round i doubt Manny will...
Don't worry, Hatton is guaranteed to earn that 50% inside the ring. He isn't like Mayweather who'd get a big piece of the pie then bore the audience running and clinching the whole night, Hatton is a fighter...Pacman will have himself a fight. :D
Why do you constantly try to compare lol? your the worst of them all. Mayweather is a better fighter than Pac and he would beat Pac... get over it lol. Plus it was a thread about Hatton and Pac... not Mayweather and Pac. Floyd was P4P#1 when he was fighting... Pac took his place when he retired, so how can you even compare him to Floyd when the only way he can get the #1 spot is by Mayweather retiring? Seriously mate you are entitled to your opinion... and don't say I am a Mayweather nut hugger because I am a Pac fan and I give him credit for what he has achieved. But if you think Pac is suddenly better than Floyd then I disagree.
As for you saying the fight will be a war... yes, it will... I am really looking forward to it and I think Pac will win this one.
ok let me bring u up on facts..i said this is a pick em fight with the edge going to pacman..you huggers think its a walk in the park..but you'll soon see..and how will floyd be a joke he put the first lose on hattons record via ko...pacman's fighting floyds left overs
We already know that props won't be coming Pacman's way from tools like you even if he wins over Hatton. The only fact I see here is that Floyd's best wins will be nothing more than extras on Pacman's resume after he's done with Hatton :lol1: