Who thinks Cotto has stamina problems ?

Not a bad post mate, On this part tho i think ur wrong Cotto turns southpaw to use his big left cross more than anything else, spice up the attack a lil bit that's wishful thinking. cotto's left hand is too heavy from all the hooking and jabbing thats why he switches to southpaw.

plan C is to counterpunch if ever cotto gets tired (usually u will see cotto turn southpaw when he's tired of using his left hand). Not a bad post mate, On this part tho i think ur wrong Cotto turns southpaw to use his big left cross more than anything else, spice up the attack a lil bit

cotto definitely has stamina problems. cotto cannot fight hard for every 3 minutes of the entire 12 rounds in a grueling fight. its rare to find any boxers that can do that tho. the only ones that come to mind are pac, margarito, and a few others. the reason why cotto gasses is because of his game plan. cotto's plan A is to destroy his opponent in rounds 1-5. plan B is to box if he cant destroy his opponent right away and accumulate points and bodyshots. plan C is to counterpunch if ever cotto gets tired (usually u will see cotto turn southpaw when he's tired of using his left hand). plan D is to take a knee and quit (lol, jk...). This gameplan is usually a solid game plan, against average opponents, but it can leave cotto vulnerable to better than average opponents. why? because cotto will put alot of energy into trying to go for the early KO and gassing cotto out in the later rounds where above average fighters usually thrive. against someone like money marg cotto needs to adjust his strategy. instead of going to plan A, he needs to go to plan B right away, which doesnt mean getting on his bike, but just means he doesnt put his back on the ropes. money marg is so slow that if cotto stops trying to KO money marg he will definitely last all 12 rounds (not saying that the victory will be assured if he does this). he should switch between boxing and counterpunching to confuse money marg. plan A (going to war) should be reserved in desperate situations and as a last resort only. some have said cotto should straight up brawl and trade punches with money marg to back him up. imho that's a recipe for disaster. no one trades w/ money marg and survives unless ur name is pwill or you're a 154+ lber.

His stamina is good i think to question it is a overly critical! He aint a punching machine type freak like Tony or Diaz but the guy fights at a good hard pace and theres Meat behind ALL of his shots, sometimes he backs up but if u watch his career its just something he likes to do from time to time even in easy fights when he clearly isint tireing but hey even when Cotto backs up he throws HARD shots i mean this guy actually beats u up off of the backfoot! His stamina is fine. Against Tony he was exasted but look at all that movement, punching, body shots received and just raw mental pressure he was under his stamina still served him until the second last round - not bad really. For thee rematch i think he will whip himself into even better shape tho, that said if he fights smart and ties Marg up on the inside evry now and again he wont need to be That is what im talking bout, great post as always The Surgeon, some people watch Cotto's biggest fights and judge him as having bad stamina or view him as a relentless pressure fighter in the mould of a J C Chavez, when he is nothing like that, but then again these are probably the same people that thought he could not box pre Shane Mosley.

His stamina is good i think to question it is a overly critical! He aint a punching machine type freak like Tony or Diaz but the guy fights at a good hard pace and theres Meat behind ALL of his shots, sometimes he backs up but if u watch his career its just something he likes to do from time to time even in easy fights when he clearly isint tireing but hey even when Cotto backs up he throws HARD shots i mean this guy actually beats u up off of the backfoot! His stamina is fine. Against Tony he was exasted but look at all that movement, punching, body shots received and just raw mental pressure he was under his stamina still served him until the second last round - not bad really. For thee rematch i think he will whip himself into even better shape tho, that said if he fights smart and ties Marg up on the inside evry now and again he wont need to be

DelaCotto IMO...

I see different from you guys. Cotto does have some stamina problems. He showed it in the abdullaev,N`Dou,Malignaggie,Mosley and Margarito fights. He wastes too much energy moving around the ring, when sometimes he dont even have to. He is so worry or showing his boxing skills that sometimes he gets out of his game plan.In the Mosley fight he didnt had to box those last 4 rounds but for some reason he did, it payed off but he was dead tire, against N`dou he lost 3 out of the last 4 rounds,and he look dead tire also and with Margarito he used the wrong game plan. Instead of running around the ring so much, he shoulded stay more in the pocket, using more head and hip movement than using his legs the whole fight. Instead of potshoting on his back foot the whole fight, he should of, stand on the inside putting more mustard on his punches and work that left hook to the body. He should of fought similiar to the pinto fight, boxing, but putting pressure at the same time. Cotto needs to work on his strengths and not on his opponents weaknesses!!!!!!!! You are 100% correct at least there are some people that understand the way Cotto actually fights. Cotto fights best in the pocket going to the body and bringing his punches up, but for some reason he does have tendency to wanna show his Boxing skills, even when he is well on top. Cotto has done this throughout his career right back from when he was doing 4 rounders.

problem is when he faces a guy who can take his shots and keeps coming, like Ndou, Mosley, Margarito.... Cotto is looking for a rematch against Margarito, we all know Margarito can take Cotto's shots and keep coming. Cotto's punch output is about 60 per round and Margarito averages 100+, Cotto needs to box him and be in better condition to pull it off. :lol1: He was Boxing too much, you have to stand and trade sometimes in Boxing to get some respect out of your oponents, otherwise they will keep coming and eventually roll over you. That is one of the reasons Cotto lost, he boxed too much and tried to avoid the bullet instead of trying get some respect out of Marg. He never laid the ground work the way he usually does, because he hardly went to the body and i dont believe he hit Marg as hard as he could, cleanly yes, but not as hard as he could of.

So you don't think he traded with Margarito? Was it then Margarito surprised Cotto with those shots, hit him as he was moving away, how was it if he wasn't trading? Maybe you're right, maybe everyone so a different fight than the one you saw. Nah of coarse he threw punches, but when a guy is being constantly backed up and looking to counter and slip rather than stand and fight that usually does not mean he was standing and trading.

I don't think he has stamina issues. Margarito had him moving a lot and fighting, Cotto had a chance to place his punches against pretty much everyone he has faced. But Margarito didn't give him much of a chance, also Margarito pounded to his body a lot that night. I don't think he tired against Mosley either, people who say this should start looking at Cotto's career earlier on. He used to box a lot and move around the ring and pick different angles to fight from. He probably felt he won the fight like his corner told him, and he decided to box the rest of the fight instead of taking risks.

problem is when he faces a guy who can take his shots and keeps coming, like Ndou, Mosley, Margarito.... Cotto is looking for a rematch against Margarito, we all know Margarito can take Cotto's shots and keep coming. Cotto's punch output is about 60 per round and Margarito averages 100+, Cotto needs to box him and be in better condition to pull it off.

People says it because he was dazed by accumulation of Margaritto punches. He doesn't has stamina problems, he just can't avoid upper-cross combination with his guard.

It was a mixture of both,Cotto's stamina and Margarito.Cotto usually does'nt get pressured late in fights,because he has taking the wind out of his opponent,save for Mosley,who is an a+ fighter.With all those heavy shots he was landing early against Margarito,he didnt expect Margarito to be standing there looking fresh in the later rounds.He extended most of his energy,and on top of that,the mental toll of Margarito's super pressure,his whole concept of the victory,came crashing down and he folded!!

I wouldn't say that Cotto has stamina problems cuz I 've seem him fight effectively late in fights with energy and power...However there have been instances where it looked like Cotto faded at the end of fights as well...IMO the opponent probably has more to do with it than anything else...The Cotto-Mosely fight saw both fighters trade some pretty intense leather throughout, ditto with Margarito...I just think that Miguel exerted himself more in those fights than others...He didn't have the opportunity to coast or take a little break during those particular contests as most fighters do... No one said anything about his stamina when he stopped Judah late in their fight or the one against Torres...

You think he was trying to trade with Marg instead of Box ? what fight were you watching ? he was on the backfoot majority of the fight and he never once backed up Margartio or traded in centre ring with him. Against Corley i agree, but that was probably more down to the location of the fight. Torres definitely. Cotto is generally not really the style/type of fighter that stays in there too much though. So you don't think he traded with Margarito? Was it then Margarito surprised Cotto with those shots, hit him as he was moving away, how was it if he wasn't trading? Maybe you're right, maybe everyone so a different fight than the one you saw.

By looking for the KO is staying too long in there and trading..... corley, torres, Margarito for instance, I just wanna see him box more and take less shots. You think he was trying to trade with Marg instead of Box ? what fight were you watching ? he was on the backfoot majority of the fight and he never once backed up Margartio or traded in centre ring with him. Against Corley i agree, but that was probably more down to the location of the fight. Torres definitely. Cotto is generally not really the style/type of fighter that stays in there too much though.

I don't think he has stamina problems, I think he just expends unnecessary energy with all that upper lateral movement he does. in the Margarito fight Cotto got hit worst when he trapped himself on those ropes, I say trapped himself because he himself was backing up as opposed to being forced back, he CHOSE to be the Boxer instead of being a bigger puncher therefore back peddling and more times than not finding himself on the ropes and when he would get pinned up against them ropes as time went on you saw him bobbing and weaving, ducking and shaking a lot of punches but not throwing even half of what he could have been throwing. I think with Cotto is that he himself waists energy and makes it harder for himself to go rounds, that whole blocking shit that he does, the little shell he makes of himself to recieve less punches on had him taking MORE punches against Tony, uppercuts to the chest and damn near anywhere Tony could hvae landed. to me it was another Taylor issue where Taylkor just looked incredibly tense and therefore ended up expending most of his energy with his own movements as time progressed, his impatience cost him and he showed in the next fight with a more patient approach that alla long he could have done better.. thing is I have seen Cotto go 12 in a weight he was literally killing himself to make so it's kind of hard to believe that at a higher weight where he is more nourished and conditioned that stamina is his problem, his problem is that he expends too much energy with his upper lateral movement which requires a lot of force from his sternum and then not to menchine you have Margarito there pounding at his vital spots as well it just spelled for disaster. I don't think he has stamina problems at all I just think that both Shane and Margarito, the 2 best opponents that Cotto has faced to date, managed to push Cotto to new limits, further than he's ever been pushed before and though in 1 of those 2 he won I think it was evident that in the 2nd one no matter how much training or practice you've had there is no way to just deal with such a high increase in offensive ability, tony fought smart he didn't fight brave, he took MANY face shots but being that he guarded his body so well I figure that was the plan, he hit Cotto in vital spots and drained him over the course of the fight and this aside from Cotto draining a lot of his own energy too, it just spelled for disaster. overall I don't think he has stamina issues because if he was to just calm down a bit and only duck and dodge when punches are fired and not while circling he wouldn't gas out, he would do 12 and wouldn't gas out.. Shane and Tony aren't slouches man so to see that they gave a guy in Cotto whom had just broke into elite status so much trouble doesn't surprise me. Tony may be a clumsy brawler at times but he has a lot of experience due to turning pro early so he knows a lot of tricks, he knows where to hit you to weaken you, he was hitting Cotto's arms and chest and just highly decreasing Cotto's endurance, he was pushing Cotto harder than anyone else had and I just don't think Cotto knew how to deal with it hence the 2 knee's, he needed those breaks to regroup, he knew he was in danger at that point and needed to buy time. I don't think it was a stamina issues but just an overall accumilation of damage that brought Cotto down that way..

The only time i think Cotto has gotten himself in trouble be abandoning his countering and Boxing was against Torres and that was more, because he was probably annoyed that he got buzzed or hurt.

Cotto does not go looking for the KO IMO and rarely has, if anything he should stand a fight more, he boxes and counter punches too much sometimes. He didn't try to fight Margarito he tried to do what he nearly always does counter and fight at his own pace and trade in spurts. If he had stood more with Margarito and kept him busy playing defence more or getting some respect outta him he might have done a lot better imo. By looking for the KO is staying too long in there and trading..... corley, torres, Margarito for instance, I just wanna see him box more and take less shots.

I see it different, Cotto is a heavy handed boxer/puncher who is forcing himself to become a puncher and abandon his boxing ability. He trains at a very slow pace and relaxed sparring sessions. He needs to pick it up and keep boxing and not mind so much what fans say, if the KO comes fine but he shouldn't look to mix it up looking for the KO in every fight. Yes, his stamina can improve. He lost the Margarito fight because he was more tired than hurt, in a rematch, he'll have to come in better shape. Cotto does not go looking for the KO IMO and rarely has, if anything he should stand a fight more, he boxes and counter punches too much sometimes. He didn't try to fight Margarito he tried to do what he nearly always does counter and fight at his own pace and trade in spurts. If he had stood more with Margarito and kept him busy playing defence more or getting some respect outta him he might have done a lot better imo.