Margarito would be a nobody if he were in his natural weight div. True Story.
He is able to walk through punches, because he should be no where near the WW div. Take away Margarito's physical advantages he is an average fighter.
When Marg has faced guys his own size he has looked bad or been beaten, Clottey/Williams.
If it was not beneficial for Marg to get down to WW he wouldn't do it.
would he ?
Now please dont say that proves he is a naturaly WW, because it dont it just proves that in some cases losing lots of weight in the right way does not always weaken you or make you suspect durability wise.
Anyone with two eyes can see Margarito is not a natural WW.
Maybe DLH should have hired Marg's trainer for the Pac fight, if your assumption is right.
Im not talking about his Height. Im talking about his lack of skills and him not being able to impose his sheer physical strength and size on his oponents.
Its not even his strength either its his chin. end of story
Margarito can make weight, so I don't care. But if he moved up to middleweight, would he get his ass whooped? YES.
I think Clottey would do okay at MW and Williams.
You're making too big a deal about his size its his chin thats the problem. If he anybody elses chin Cotto would have KOd him in 4. The only reason he cant last with the big boys is that 160lbers hit way harder not because they are taller.
Im not talking about his Height. Im talking about his lack of skills and him not being able to impose his sheer physical strength and size on his oponents.
Hopkins was not a natural MW did you see him getting decked at 160lbs?
NO ? why because its how you get down.
You're making too big a deal about his size its his chin thats the problem. If he anybody elses chin Cotto would have KOd him in 4. The only reason he cant last with the big boys is that 160lbers hit way harder not because they are taller.
Hopkins was not a natural MW did you see him getting decked at 160lbs?
NO ? why because its how you get down.
hopkins fought at MW 97% of his career...YOU FAIL! now STFU!
If he had that hard of a time making weight he wouldnt have the chin he has. Losing too much weight actually makes you weaker physically. I dislike MoneyMarg by the way but shut the **** up hes big wow we all get it. Lennox was a big HW who cares.
Hopkins was not a natural MW did you see him getting decked at 160lbs?
NO ? why because its how you get down.
Margarito would be a nobody if he were in his natural weight div. True Story.
He is able to walk through punches, because he should be no where near the WW div. Take away Margarito's physical advantages he is an average fighter.
When Marg has faced guys his own size he has looked bad or been beaten, Clottey/Williams.
STFU! man what is with all the haters on this site?:lame::gives::bottle:
If he had that hard of a time making weight he wouldnt have the chin he has. Losing too much weight actually makes you weaker physically. I dislike MoneyMarg by the way but shut the **** up hes big wow we all get it. Lennox was a big HW who cares.
I think people dont give Margarito the credit he deserves. He is a normal welterweight. Cotto is a small welterweight. The others, Cintron, Clottey, Quintana, etc. have small disadvantages if any. In history at welterweight, the best at the division have been around Margaritos height. Tito was 5'11 also and he was a normal middleweight, the reason he stayed at WW for so long was because he started his career at an early age and became a champion at 20 years old. If Margarito has no trouble making 147 it must be because its his normal weight, so I dont see a reason to force him to fight at 154.
Yeah its not that im saying he does not have a good chin naturally, but what i am saying is he would not be taking those flush shots off a guy is own size if he were fighting at his natural weight div. And his skills wouldn't do him any favours either.
Chances are if he was fighting in his "natural" weight class from the beginning and he couldn't take all the punches at 160-154 then he wouldn't fight the way he does
Tony can make WW with no problems so I've no problems with him fighting there. Naturally, I think Tony could easily fight at 154 or 160 and he probably will eventually but the money is at 147 right now.
how is welterweight not natural for him if he can make it easily without draining himself? use some plain and basic common sense WILL YA??
He only makes it, because of a loop hole(day before weigh in)
How many times
Originally Posted by Dynamite Kid
Paul Williams is clearly not a WW and probably more of a MW naturally, but he still used to make WW.
Look at the mans punch output , have you ever see him tired or hurt? because i haven't, and ive seen him hit flush by Margarito and Quintana on more than one occasion.
Oh shit I missed this. Nevermind you rock dude hahahahah.......
What is funny about that ? like i said that does not prove he or Williams are natural WW its just means they exploit a loop hole at the weigh in.
idiot!
Originally Posted by Dynamite Kid
Paul Williams is clearly not a WW and probably more of a MW naturally, but he still used to make WW.
Look at the mans punch output , have you ever see him tired or hurt? because i haven't, and ive seen him hit flush by Margarito and Quintana on more than one occasion.
Oh shit I missed this. Nevermind you rock dude hahahahah.......
Besides it being a cowardly thing to do its also dangerous and if its dangerous its a bad advertisement for Boxing when something goes wrong.
Shut the **** up about bad advertisement for boxing. That’s not what your lame as thread was headlining.
you just countered your own thread you idiot.
No i did'nt my thread is entitled Margarito would be a nobody if he were in his natural weight div. It doesn't matter how well he performs at the weight that still does not mean its his natural weight it just means he exploits a loop hole in the procedure IE the weigh in the day before the fight.
Paul Williams is clearly not a WW and probably more of a MW naturally, but he still used to make WW.
Look at the mans punch output , have you ever see him tired or hurt? because i haven't, and ive seen him hit flush by Margarito and Quintana on more than one occasion.
you just countered your own thread you idiot.