Charlie Zelenoff- rate his speed and power

Oh Shit!!! Charlie's a real fighter??? I thought this was some kind of parody.. Now I feel bad for laughing

Zelenoff is the next........ Eric Crumble. Dead serious. This guy has no hope. He looks the same. That loss changed him. No matter how young he is. This dude has a disability, and its the lack of putting effort into putting his hands up. You aint Gamboa ni99a. Spar. Stop hitting mitts... They don't hit back. Man up bitch!

I'm torn between hoping that he loses to the next no-hoper he faces so that he doesn't end up in the ring with a real fighter and get seriously hurt and... well, hoping that he beats the next no-hoper so that he ends up in the ring with a real fighter and gets seriously hurt.

"you didn't beat me andrew, i beat myself" That kid in the video sounds like he is crying, that is not charlie. Charlie doesn't cry

"you didn't beat me andrew, i beat myself"

defense, defense, and defense chuck. gotta keep ur damn hands up son!

he tried to hit andrew "kid thunder" hartley but he is a defensive wizard. Zelenoff told me that Hartley was trained by Hopkins

I wouldn't know.. I have never seen you actually hit anyone... He caught Andrew Hartley with a painful looking ding right on the end of the knuckle using his chin. Then he pretended to quit to spare poor Kid Thunder from any further hand damage.

I wouldn't know.. I have never seen you actually hit anyone... he tried to hit andrew "kid thunder" hartley but he is a defensive wizard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggVTkwivYoI ok i know i shouldnt be dropping my hands alot and my conditioning ye that was 3 weeks ago i am rusty i dont train as much but let alone my speed and my right hand power. come On guys lets be a little honest here????? I wouldn't know.. I have never seen you actually hit anyone...

I want all to know... Im rating Zelenoff as compared to other Welterweights making a debut... not the top guys who've been fighting for a decade. Zelenoff lost to the great Andrew Hartley, ricky hatton ducked Hartley to fight Malignaggi.

There is a whole sub-culture of "Zelenoff Haters" on the internet. And I'm not going to argue, he's definately talked enough smack to deserve scorn. However, NONE of Zelenoff's problems were technical or skill related. He looked like a decent beginner in his fight with Hartley. His problems were heart related and his own inability to deal with frustration. That being said... on a scale of 1-100... his speed is probably 70, power is hard to judge, anyone can look strong against a heavy bag, but I'd say for a Welter, he is probably got a good bit of pop to his punches, so I'll say 75 to 80. But like I said, anyone can throw a bomb when an immobile heavy bag is in front of you. Footwork and distance control, I'm gonna give Z an 80... he actually did pretty damn good using the whole ring. I want all to know... Im rating Zelenoff as compared to other Welterweights making a debut... not the top guys who've been fighting for a decade. Zelenoff loses to everyone. And he deserves all the scorn he gets. Can;t wait for the latest no-hoper he's apparently fighting to starch him as well.

There is a whole sub-culture of "Zelenoff Haters" on the internet. And I'm not going to argue, he's definately talked enough smack to deserve scorn. However, NONE of Zelenoff's problems were technical or skill related. He looked like a decent beginner in his fight with Hartley. His problems were heart related and his own inability to deal with frustration. That being said... on a scale of 1-100... his speed is probably 70, power is hard to judge, anyone can look strong against a heavy bag, but I'd say for a Welter, he is probably got a good bit of pop to his punches, so I'll say 75 to 80. But like I said, anyone can throw a bomb when an immobile heavy bag is in front of you. Footwork and distance control, I'm gonna give Z an 80... he actually did pretty damn good using the whole ring. I want all to know... Im rating Zelenoff as compared to other Welterweights making a debut... not the top guys who've been fighting for a decade.

This has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen. Ohhhh man I cannot stop laughing, ROFL. I'm in tears and my stomach hurts. Charlie Zelenoff: The Rise and Fall of a Legend lmao aw man.

I heard charlie zelenoff could knock out david haye

are you kidding me?

why did he do that against Hartley?, I still don't understand it. He could have just ran, and taken Hartley to the unchartered territory of the 3rd round. :haha::haha::haha:

why did he do that against Hartley?, I still don't understand it. He could have just ran, and taken Hartley to the unchartered territory of the 3rd round.

I've seen more power watching a gnat take a piss and you move as fast as a dead raccoon.

Charlie. Your speed is not bad, your power is not bad. Your technique is awful. Stop trying to hit everything as hard as you can and learn to box.