The reason some English fans dislike Calzaghe

Wow,someone that deals in facts for once, thanks for presenting logic into the discussion. How weak of an argument is it when someone says "well in his prime so and so would have beat Clazaghe". It's childish for one. Eubank, Hopkins,Jones whomever signed the contract made millions and proceeded to lose. I don't hear the actual fighters complaining much at all, just their irrational fans. In fact I consider myself fans of all of these fighters but once you get in the ring that is where the truth lies, not on some weak ass thread or bullshit magazine article speaking to what ifs. The fact is Calzaghe beat everyone that he fought. It wasn't like he just all of the sudden became champion. All the good fighter's over the last decade have known who Joe is, but were in no hurry to challenge him,especially on the cheap. Your right on when you suggest that the fans of these fighters would go crazy if one of their faves beat Calzaghe. It would be completely legit as well to go bat shit crazy, because the guy is the best in the world period.

im not saying he'd beat calzaghe, just if he plans on standing a chance of winning, that he'd need to up his stamina cuz i do think he has most of what's needed to beat joe cept the stamina(stamina would mean he could be more active) I dunno bro. It's an interesting thought, but I don't see anything in Jermain that makes me think he could do it. Even with enough stamina to go at a crazy high pace for 12 rounds. Seems to me Jermain just isn't a high-pace fighter. I do like him though. He's got skills, an excellent jab, and I thought he won the rematch against Pavlik. Kelly was outboxed, IMO. Unfortunately the judges scored it for Kelly's aggression, mainly. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

where do you rank calzaghe in all time great? top 10? Nah! I have no idea. I'd need to think about that. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

yea, as of now taylor has no chance at all, but if he had more stamina he could unload more like he did to pavlik, he would'nt be taking the punishment like he did against pavlik as calzaghe does'nt have that kind of power, so he would'nt tire as quick but still, all he needs is more stamina which probabley just is'nt possible for some people styles make fights, so dont go magic triangle here No magic triangle fro me, dude. But actually, people say triangle theory is bullshit. Well, if that's the case, why does pretty much everyone judge a fighter based on who he's beaten? Obviously, there IS some truth to triangle theory. Taylor hit Pavlik with an elbow, apparently. That's what got Pavlik into trouble and almost knocked out. Whatever, you do what you can in a fight, this ain't no tea party. But still, I don't think Jermain hits hard enough to hurt Calzaghe, even if he upped his work rate X10. Calzaghe's chin is stupid tough. Jermain wouldn't even make him flinch, and as I always said: if you can't hurt Calzaghe enough to keep him down, you don't win the fight. It's that simple. Nobody has ever out-worked him, nobody has ever beat his stamina, and nobody has adapted to him because he adapts to them first. No fanboy-ism, this is just how it is. 18 years without losing a fight! Even in amateurs, beating Calzaghe was a HUGE deal, just as it is now. People might not like him, but damn, if their favorite fighter got a win, we'd never hear the end of it. Calzaghe is THE man to beat. Period. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Calazaghes wins over a prime Kessler and a really good Hopkins who destroyed Kelly Pavlik will only get better with age. Come to think of it, I dont know of any other British boxer in history thats carried the p4p crown before. Calzaghe had it from the time he beat Roy Jones all the way up to the Oscar/pacman fight. Ironically it was Roy Jones that kept Lennox from having it in the early 2000's. Calzaghe is the best.

i honestly think jermain taylor is the only one that has the chance to beat JC at this point That's the exact opposite of what I think. In my opinion, Joe should fight Taylor for an easy pay day and an easy night's work, but the fight would still be seen as a legit challenge. In reality, it'd be completely one-sided. Joe already thinks he'd whup Taylor. When he ran into Bernard (the "I'll never let a white boy beat me" era) he was making fun of Bernard for getting beaten twice by Taylor. Clearly, he is confident that Taylor would not be a problem. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Lacy was clearly overhyped. Its the recognition he tries to get from the Hopkins and RJJ fights that pisses me off. If he fought and beat Taylor and Pavlik now then i'd be happy. If he retires hes a bitch. Wow. Lacy was certainly not overhyped until Joe beat the crap out of him, was he? And dude, it you think Pavlik and Taylor would stand a chance, I'm kinda lost for words homeslice. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

I feel exactly the same, that and the fact he beats old men and acts as if he's beat a young prime champion. I cant stand that!! He did. He beat Lacy. A young prime champion. And Kessler. A young, prime DOUBLE world champion. Give that man a cigar! 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Exactly. If he's Welsh, he's British. I'm half English half Welsh, never lived in Wales, WTF am I? Who cares... You mongrel, Kris! But mongrel's have the strongest genes. It's the same in the plant world! 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

He was born in England but calls himself Welsh. I have no problem with it, but my mate hates him for it. To be honest in football Scotland, England and Wales are all seperate and do dislike each other and prefer to call themselves English, Scottish and Welsh respectively rather than British. If I was a world class boxer I'd only have St George's cross on my trunks. I'm English. Not British. I still like Calzaghe though.

I don't care if he considers himself 'Welsh' rather than 'British'. Kessler has more English blood than Calzaghe. Who do you think the vast majority of English boxing fans were cheering for when they fought? Exactly. If he's Welsh, he's British. I'm half English half Welsh, never lived in Wales, WTF am I? Who cares...

Im from the UK and i dont give two shits about where ur from, the main reason i hate him is his hideous slappy style!

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Terrible..., who now calls himself Dynamite Kid, hates Calzaghe because he is white, not because he's Welsh. He made a Ricky Hatton hate thread recently, here it is: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232482 He's expressed similar negativity toward the other white English fighters such as Froch. And he hates the Klitschkos, Kessler, Pavlik, etc. I don't see that thread as "hateful". Terrible/Dynamite Kid has actually often defended Hatton from his critics. Calzaghe's style just isn't for everybody.

It's because their girlfriend's wanna **** Joe. That's all it is. I have to agree with you there.

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I don't think so; it's never occurred to me. The guy is Welsh after all (despite being born in London). I'm not actually a big fan of seeing national colours and flags on boxing trunks, certainly in pro boxing. It's man v. man (or indeed woman v. woman) not nation against nation. Most fans have favourites of other nationalities while disliking some fighters from their own country. I bet more than 50% of English Calzaghe fans are just casual fans who do not realise he could have taken better fights that would have meant something Yet again, against who?

It's because Calzaghe never wheres the Union Jack on his trunks, only the Italian and Welsh flags unlike Hatton and Haye who both fight with the Jack on their trunks. Terrible... has gone as far to say he doesn't like Calzaghe because he is Welsh. It's because their girlfriend's wanna **** Joe. That's all it is. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Terrible..., who now calls himself Dynamite Kid, hates Calzaghe because he is white, not because he's Welsh. He made a Ricky Hatton hate thread recently, here it is: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232482 He's expressed similar negativity toward the other white English fighters such as Froch. And he hates the Klitschkos, Kessler, Pavlik, etc.That doesn't seem like a hate thread to me, he is basically saying what a LOT of people think of Hatton. Believe it or not not everybody likes Ricky style.

Maybe they just don't like him because they don't appreciate his style of fighting. I know plenty of British fans who just don't like Calzaghe for reasons that have nothing to do with nationality.