if everyone was like that how boring would the boxing world be outside the ring
Depends man. I don't really watch boxing for trash talk and ego inflation. If they are cool peoples outide the ring, that's good in my book. If they are just arrogant, I don't like them. It goes for boxers and people in general.
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I think more times then not, Floyd simply makes himself look very arrogant. Im not really impressed with anything i have ever seen from floyd outside the ring.
Inside the ring is a different story.
But in the end, i think its guys like Ricky hatton, and Pacman, who really keep this sport alive. Because the fans can relate more to them, and they are both men of the people. Floyd could learn alot from both of them.
No not at all, it gives boxing more attention. But he overdoes it, and just looks stupid in the end. But people would have said the same thing about Ali too.
Oscar didn't do it. He's the richest guy in boxing and sells the most PPV's. Pac is the nicest guy in the world and he's a well-respected worldwide superstar.
if everyone was like that how boring would the boxing world be outside the ring
it needs a variety of characters, Floyd's attitude indears him to some, alienates a lot, but he's a character and an interesting one at that
Oscar didn't do it. He's the richest guy in boxing and sells the most PPV's. Pac is the nicest guy in the world and he's a well-respected worldwide superstar.Oscar is the huge ppv star that he is because of that Gold Medal deal with his dead mother, plus the fact that girls think hes good lookin. Im not saying that his accomplishments in the ring didnt affect that either...but without the first two things he wouldnt be nearly as big as he is today.
Pacquiao Ill give you.
I think what a lot of people either ignore or don't notice is that Oscar De La Hoya is focused as much if not more on money than Mayweather and he is very popular. Unlike Mayweather, Oscar doesn't flaunt his interest in money, but it is obvious to any real fan. All of his undercards are garbage because he refuses to pay the undercard fighters anything. He pays his opponents as little as he can. The Pacquaio fight almost didn't take place because Oscar refused to give Pacquaio more than 30 percent of the revenue, which means Oscar would have received 70 percent. The only reason he wanted to fight Pacquaio is because of the amount of money he knew it woud generate for him. He saw it as a low risk fight. He was obviously wrong The same applies to Ricky Hatton. He knows he woudl have made a ton of money against Hatton fighting in Wembley stadium vs very little risk. Mayweather ended up making about $30 million off the ODLH fight after all the revenue came in. Oscar made three times that amount. That is what drives Oscar. He is greedy, selfish and more harmful to the sport than Mayweather's "money" persona could ever be.
Oscar didn't do it. He's the richest guy in boxing and sells the most PPV's. Pac is the nicest guy in the world and he's a well-respected worldwide superstar.
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I would think that in the case of Mayweather, people often overlook his skills, and focus soley on his antics. Which I would argue, is not a very good thing.
throughout the history of boxing the most famous fighters were not necessarily the most skilled, but the ones with the most memorable storylines/personalities. not everyone loves boxing the way we do...and to become a huge name sports personality you need to attract the attention of people that normally dont care about boxing. Mayweather does that to a degree.
bad? its good for boxing. Mayweather may be a goofball, but people remember him for the ridiculous way he acts, and in time they grow to understand how incredibly skilled he is.
very few fighters even have a persona to be remembered by, good or bad.
I would think that in the case of Mayweather, people often overlook his skills, and focus soley on his antics. Which I would argue, is not a very good thing.
bad? its good for boxing. Mayweather may be a goofball, but people remember him for the ridiculous way he acts, and in time they grow to understand how incredibly skilled he is.
very few fighters even have a persona to be remembered by, good or bad.
besides, what very well known people are actually well mannered and arent controversial? theres not too many, Ill tell you that. Tyson might have had an insane life and done a bunch of ridiculous stuff, but that doesnt stop him from getting the biggest cheers of the night whenever hes shown on TV, whether it be in America or Germany.
It's unnecessary. He might have more fans if he dropped the money act. Skills are undeniable. All he needs to do is let his hands do the talking.
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Well, from an outsider's perspective...
Do you think that his persona is bad for boxing in that people affiliate boxer's in general with being more concerned about money, than the sport itself ?
i don't think "outsiders" would look into it that far
Well, from an outsider's perspective...
Do you think that his persona is bad for boxing in that people affiliate boxer's in general with being more concerned about money, than the sport itself ?
No, i dont think people care about super materialism like that because today's society is all about having money. What people may hate is his flaunting of his wealth but America is about money money money. The casual public wont criticize a boxer because he's mad rich, they'll criticize him if he talks a big game but doesn't walk it.
Not anymore than the bad guy persona in "Pro Wrestling" hurts wrestling. The only problem is satisfying the crowd IN the ring. You have to provide entertainment outside AND inside the ring. Not living to expectations is what hurts boxing.
Actually, I think that the good guy/bad guy ploy is what's fueld pro wrestling since its inception.
It wasn't until Stone Cold Steve Austin came around that rooting for the 'bad guy' became so popular.
Well, from an outsider's perspective...
Do you think that his persona is bad for boxing in that people affiliate boxer's in general with being more concerned about money, than the sport itself ?
Not anymore than the bad guy persona in "Pro Wrestling" hurts wrestling. The only problem is satisfying the crowd IN the ring. You have to provide entertainment outside AND inside the ring. Not living to expectations is what hurts boxing.