I just wish hatton beats him and sends him back to the lower divisions................
maybe im still mad over my boy losingQUOTE]
i think , that's it.
I don't blame you.
MANNY fought only once at 135. Sure he showed up at 147 for oscar, what did you expect? Manny to come in at 130??? BOTTOM LINE IS........ oscar's PLAN BACKFIRED:boxing:
Yeah, I mentioned that in one of my posts: he deserved it since he tried to take advantage of the situation, and he either forgot his history or didn't pay attention.
this one is a matter of opinion. if you think pbf is a better fighter, then i have no business to disagree
Of course it is opinion. Most of what we discuss is opinion. Were talking about lightweight Floyd though, right?
margarito has the habit of ducking his head against smaller fighters, so the reach part should not be an issue. dont be too sure about margarito laughing off pacmans punches, he may have a strong chin but pacquiao punches are prone to making cuts and bumps which is eveident with the diaz and de la hoya fight. speed kills
pacquiao and cotto are different. pacquiao style is unique and is all heart. everytime he fights in any circumstance, you always see fire in his eyes, something cotto lost in the later rounds againts margarito
Margarito laughed at Cotto and Cintron...two punchers that make Pac's punches feel the same as a mother's hand patting a baby's bottom. If Pac would win, it's from not getting hit and point fighting Margarito.
Diaz isn't even worthy of being mentioned next to Margarito in terms of fighters...and I'm not talking about P4P weight b.s., but actual fighters.
Oscar = Corpse = doesn't count = clouds your vision
Cotto has lots of heart and fought smart. Freddie said Cotto should have went to the body, but I thought I read Cotto said he tried but just couldn't. Margarito throws a ton of punches and a varitey. The guy bruises the body.
It's always possible, but I'm with Freddie with this one.
What gives Manny a chance is his speed and agility, however, could he last against Margarito...Cotto couldn't and he can take more punishment with his body. Remember, Cotto was moving during the fight. If Manny was a natural welter/started his career there...yeah, I could see it. Even though Pac is 147 pounds and is thick, he doesn't come off as a true Welterweight given fighers show up 10+ pounds over the limit by fight-time.
Manny would be hit in the match.
dude dont get me wrong, not too fond of his demeanor but i love jmm as a boxer and regard him better then pbf
pacquiao wouldn't be as good as he is now if he hadn't fought jmm. rivalry/contention is what made the pacman that we know now. all thanks to the like's of this great fighter
My brothers dislike him as well... They like Morales a lot though... I tell em JMM has a lot of heart, and what he showed in the ring, getting up 3 times and never quitting, gives him the credibility of being genuinely butt hurt outside the ring, which justifies his behavior in my eyes...The fight was hella close and it must be a heart wrenching experience to be so close to the mountain top but fall short twice after all the hard work put in.. So I understand were he is coming from. Many fighters complain even when they lose by a bigger margin than JMM... It is this same Persistence and desire that makes JMM formidable in the ring.
SPEED and AGILITY...yeah, maybe. I thought about this too and think it is possible, but I don't know. Margarito keeps coming and he would seriously laugh at Pac's punches. Pac would have to bounce to the sides and not just back and forth. His small reach could pose a big problem because of the way he punches. If JMM can catch him; Margarito could as well. Margarito keeps throwing and gets stronger as the fight goes on.
One thing is for sure though, it would be exciting since Pac is only in exciting fights.
I doubt Freddie would risk it unless Margarito and Cotto beat the shit out of each other so bad next time out that there is nothing left to worry about.
Plus, I'm not sure how many people would want to see Manny take that chance of being brutally beaten like Cotto was...and it would be worse if Margarito starts to catch Manny. I don't want to see it. Manny's too cool and humble to go out like that and he shouldn't be fighting at 147 anyway.
ding ding ding...that the correct answer....
SHHHH.. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE. goldie DUCKED LEGIT WELTERS, CHALLENGED A JR.LIGHTWEIGHT (which in case you weren't informed weigh 130) AND.............YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPEN... :boxing:
He fought TITO in his prime
Manny last fought at 135 division prior to Oscar and showed up for his 135 fight at 147 by fight time; same weight Oscar showed up at for his fight with Manny by fight-time.
dude dont get me wrong, not too fond of his demeanor but i love jmm as a boxer and regard him better then pbf
pacquiao wouldn't be as good as he is now if he hadn't fought jmm. rivalry/contention is what made the pacman that we know now. all thanks to the like's of this great fighter
JMM better than Floyd?
I don't see it...not even the version that has paraded around like the one time Pretty Boy Floyd.
that the thing about boxing, styles make fights
pacquiao style is unique, something conventional fighters like mab, jmm, erik, oscar have a difficulty with. all i'm saying is that margarito maybe in the same boat
SPEED and AGILITY...yeah, maybe. I thought about this too and think it is possible, but I don't know. Margarito keeps coming and he would seriously laugh at Pac's punches. Pac would have to bounce to the sides and not just back and forth. His small reach could pose a big problem because of the way he punches. If JMM can catch him; Margarito could as well. Margarito keeps throwing and gets stronger as the fight goes on.
One thing is for sure though, it would be exciting since Pac is only in exciting fights.
I doubt Freddie would risk it unless Margarito and Cotto beat the shit out of each other so bad next time out that there is nothing left to worry about.
Plus, I'm not sure how many people would want to see Manny take that chance of being brutally beaten like Cotto was...and it would be worse if Margarito starts to catch Manny. I don't want to see it. Manny's too cool and humble to go out like that and he shouldn't be fighting at 147 anyway.
shhh.. to the pinoys pacquiao faced a prime dlh at his best.
Not a prime DLH but not a shot one nor weight drained one neither...
"This was a fight that should have been won. Oscar was able achieved great physical condition during his training. I am a witness that he did not have problems with his weight and he was not dried out from the vapors . During that time he had a nutritionist by his side who took charge of his weight and diet. But at the time of the fight he couldn't do things well. He couldn't deal with the versatility of Pacquiao" - Nacho Beristain
The way DLH was beat though..If you are really unbiased and a fan of boxing and not just Mexicans, which we know your not, will have anybody thinking weather Pacquiao could have beaten a prime DLH... You've already said that a 50 year old DLH beats a prime Pacman. Maybe your right, not apparently, but by anyones standards that would be the perfect description of a nuthugger.
I think he will eventually move down anyway..... There are no money fights at 140 (after Hatton), and no more big money marks at 147.
shit...unless mayweather comes back after the hatton fight (which is unlikey) manny might just retire after this.....
what......did i jinx it or something?
I just wish hatton beats him and sends him back to the lower divisions................
maybe im still mad over my boy losing
I think he will eventually move down anyway..... There are no money fights at 140 (after Hatton), and no more big money marks at 147.
yeah, i read an interview where he said he's willing to fight pac at 106-160, HAHA thats insane but the point is, i dont think jmm would retain or better his speed and power thus affecting his skill
We will see... Maybe im biased because im prolly the only Pinoy JMM fan on boxingscene.. I think JMM is another freak that will be effective where ever he sets his mind on it... like Pacquiao the real JMM does not bring his A game all the time but so does Pacquiao... JMM has his jacas, jandengs, etc. Pac has his Larios', Solis', etc... I think both bring out their best when they know its what is required to win... If your going to give Pacquiao credit, you gotta see JMM as an awesome fighter as for all the destruction Pacquiao has caused, JMM is the one fighter that hung with him in 2 fights 4 years apart... JMM has evolved as well, can his evolution continue to keep up with pacquiao's evolution is the question.
pacquiao is a great mexican warrior, but he should be fighting joana guzman or nate campballs.
There is an error in your post but ill let you find that out yourself... Mexicans love their Pacquiao.
i did not notice that till you said something :rofl:!!!