Joe Calzaghe is P4P #1

why are you bumping a 4 day old none thread?

You still mad Hopkins got beat by a whiteboy? whiteboy didn't beat hopkins, he got a decision.

And then when they get old, HE NOW wants to fight in the states. CALZAGHE IS A ****** BUM. And **** you if you think he is great You still mad Hopkins got beat by a whiteboy?

And then when they get old, HE NOW wants to fight in the states. CALZAGHE IS A ****** BUM. And **** you if you think he is great

If you believe his wins against Hopkins and Jones mean nothing because they were past their prime then I don't see why you think Calzaghe Vs Dawson shouldn't be criticised in the same way. There's a bigger age gap between Calzaghe and Dawson than there was between Calzaghe and Hopkins, and Hopkins has shown he can still do it against fighters that are vastly younger - Yet the Hopkins fight was unfair, but the Dawson one wouldn't be? Personally I'd love to see Joe fight again, no matter who it was against. But at this stage - It's all hypocrisy. That, and Joe was looking to be in America years ago. He challenged Jones when Jones was on the top and Jones turned it down. Regardless to what you think the result of that fight would've been, you can't go around asking stupid questions like 'Why didnt Calzaghe want to fight these guys years ago' - He did, and Jones for one turned it down. Even before their fight this year Jones commented on it, saying Joe should understand that he wasn't worth the risk then as he wasn't a big money spinner. You forget that Joe has alot of respect for Roys name, thats probably why he sees it as his greatest fight. I'd be inclined to disagree with him there myself. If it was actually his greatest fight then yes I'd say it's pathetic, but neither of us seem to believe it was. wait a minute! Calzaghe's wins over Hopkins and Jones are W's on his resume, BUT After those two wins, everybody says he is a ATG and P4P #1. He is a fraud. Jones and Hopkins wanted to fight him but he didn't want to come to the states. He wanted them to go to Wales, which is stupid because he had no BIG NAMES on his resume, just a bunch of BUMS. Till now can you name 3 fighters Calzaghe fought that were top TEN p4p. NO YOU CANT because he is a BUM just like his Resume.

If hes a real champ he WILL fight Dawson....Foreman did it facing a 20 year younger Moorer and KO'd him.If you believe his wins against Hopkins and Jones mean nothing because they were past their prime then I don't see why you think Calzaghe Vs Dawson shouldn't be criticised in the same way. There's a bigger age gap between Calzaghe and Dawson than there was between Calzaghe and Hopkins, and Hopkins has shown he can still do it against fighters that are vastly younger - Yet the Hopkins fight was unfair, but the Dawson one wouldn't be? Personally I'd love to see Joe fight again, no matter who it was against. But at this stage - It's all hypocrisy. That, and Joe was looking to be in America years ago. He challenged Jones when Jones was on the top and Jones turned it down. Regardless to what you think the result of that fight would've been, you can't go around asking stupid questions like 'Why didnt Calzaghe want to fight these guys years ago' - He did, and Jones for one turned it down. Even before their fight this year Jones commented on it, saying Joe should understand that he wasn't worth the risk then as he wasn't a big money spinner. You forget that Joe has alot of respect for Roys name, thats probably why he sees it as his greatest fight. I'd be inclined to disagree with him there myself. If it was actually his greatest fight then yes I'd say it's pathetic, but neither of us seem to believe it was.

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BULLSHAT! Calzaghe is NOWHERE past his prime you moron, his first REAL win was only 2 years ago stupid...against Lacy! You think he was in his prime at 26 like DAwson....hell no...he was fighting losers like Sobot, Thornberry, and Reid who the hell are these guys....they arent even up and commers and neither was Calzaghe. And hell yes if he is a REAL true P4P champ he better face the new fighters.....Foreman did when he faced Moorer he was 45 facing a 27 yr old 2 belt champ. SO HELL YEAH he NEEDS to face Dawson or he is just another chump. Im no hypocrite, just WAY more intelligent than you it seems....I give respect when respect is due and it aint do to Calzaghe till he fights Dawson. He shouldnt be worried or scared if he truely is the P4P champ.Calzaghe wasn't in his prime either when he fought Hopkins and Jones. So you find it unacceptable for two fighters past their prime to face each other (Cal vs Hopkins/Jones), but you think it's perfectly alright for a fighter past their prime, looking to retire (Calzaghe) to fight a young up and comer 10 years their junior (Dawson)? You're a hypocrite.

and its a pity roy and bernard dont have the speed and stamina they had 10 years ago to match there power wait a minute...... are you trying to say guys that are 43 and 40 yrs. old are not as good , as fast , as energetic as they are in their 20's and 30's? you don't say......

People ned to start to think that Joe is not in his prime and is actually far from it. Prime this prime that...... Well if he isn't in his prime, then name a legit fighter Joe fought when he was 30 yrs old?

why are people still beatin this to death. everytime some guy named mitch or dirk starts talking about Joe being the greatest every one has to jump in and try to convince them of their mental deficiencies i just dont get it. A good way to measure truth is to wait and see if Tunney comes in and agrees and if he does, the thread is complete shit. I didn't even know Klu klux klan members still existed... dont start shit with me sadact i never said joe was the greatest .

why are people still beatin this to death. everytime some guy named mitch or dirk starts talking about Joe being the greatest every one has to jump in and try to convince them of their mental deficiencies i just dont get it. A good way to measure truth is to wait and see if Tunney comes in and agrees and if he does, the thread is complete shit. I didn't even know Klu klux klan members still existed...

and its a pity roy and bernard dont have the speed and stamina they had 10 years ago to match there power i aint comparing i mean at least jones had a coplete package asa fighter in his prime calzaghe had power back then and the brains and speed now so aint complete fighter .

Hopkins was 36 when he fought a 28 year old trinidad. Hopkins fought pavlik when he is 43. He fought Joe at 43. Hopkins is a past his prime way more then Cal-slappy, and still beat him in REAL boxing fans books. So just because He is 36 he shouldn't fight Dawson? And he chose to come to America and fight hopkins, and Jones after their primes when he could have came over 3-5 years ago when they were 1,2, p4p. Calzaghe shouldn't even be in the top 5 P4P with Pac, Marquez, Margarito, Williams, etc. He said the Jones fight was the best fight of his career. That is pathetic because Jones Is WAY past his prime, SinCE he got knocked out cold. He is a great just because he beat a 2008 version of JOnes. He isn't a ATG or a HoF in my book. His so called BEST WIN doesn't compare to any other greats Best Win. And thats straight up. If you believe his wins against Hopkins and Jones mean nothing because they were past their prime then I don't see why you think Calzaghe Vs Dawson shouldn't be criticised in the same way. There's a bigger age gap between Calzaghe and Dawson than there was between Calzaghe and Hopkins, and Hopkins has shown he can still do it against fighters that are vastly younger - Yet the Hopkins fight was unfair, but the Dawson one wouldn't be? Personally I'd love to see Joe fight again, no matter who it was against. But at this stage - It's all hypocrisy. That, and Joe was looking to be in America years ago. He challenged Jones when Jones was on the top and Jones turned it down. Regardless to what you think the result of that fight would've been, you can't go around asking stupid questions like 'Why didnt Calzaghe want to fight these guys years ago' - He did, and Jones for one turned it down. Even before their fight this year Jones commented on it, saying Joe should understand that he wasn't worth the risk then as he wasn't a big money spinner. You forget that Joe has alot of respect for Roys name, thats probably why he sees it as his greatest fight. I'd be inclined to disagree with him there myself. If it was actually his greatest fight then yes I'd say it's pathetic, but neither of us seem to believe it was.

itsa pity he dont have the power that he had 10 years ago to match his speed and stamina . itsa pitey he never had the courage to step up and dare to be great

itsa pity he dont have the power that he had 10 years ago to match his speed and stamina . and its a pity roy and bernard dont have the speed and stamina they had 10 years ago to match there power

of course i would agree with that... Im not calling Joe a bum... but your matching him up with absolute elite competition... and I believe 10 years ago, the fighters you mentioned were just too skilled itsa pity he dont have the power that he had 10 years ago to match his speed and stamina .

Not all, but he wouldn't be Undefeated. He got knocked down by HOpkins and JOnes when they were Way past their primes. THink on them in their prime. People ned to start to think that Joe is not in his prime and is actually far from it. Prime this prime that......

well surley you agree they would be good of been good fights of course i would agree with that... Im not calling Joe a bum... but your matching him up with absolute elite competition... and I believe 10 years ago, the fighters you mentioned were just too skilled

But they both lacked the stamina at there age to follow up with that power... 10 years ago... Bernard and ROy could have both closed the show well surley you agree they would be good of been good fights