Manny Pac vs. Alexis Arguello

i understand but i can also say if nedal hussein can put manny on his ass with one punch......so can alexis. i can also say if agapito sanchez can give manny problems so can alexis right? i don't know......maybe i'm biased towards the older fighters. it's growing up watching old videos of old fighters with my dad. arguello was one of my dad's favorites. i hope you're right about manny's chin above 130 though. no I dont think we should include hussein nor agapito, when they fought it was still at 122, we should validate our arguments from 130 and up... and I also agree with you regarding fighters of old, I have high regard for them myself, I see arguello as a legend and what he can do but I also saw his limitations ... on the other hand if this is against Salvador Sanchez, I wont have an answer on how PAC can beat him...

mancini and pryor are not nobodies. we'll see. i might change my mind about this matchup when manny's career is done. right now , i'll go with alexis. i know. they were great fighters. i guess we'll just have to agree, to disagree. Alexis will have difficulty adjusting against Pac's southpaw stance, speed of movement.. quickness of hands and feet, relentless aggression, and power. Pac stops Alexis.

I Know who Alexis is, he is not only great he is a legend, i lost some sleep when he koed the original Hawaiian Punch Andy Ganigan, but before be able to do that he got KD by Andy... and common tuaman, do you think Alexis can beat Prime Oscar?? PAC still got hit by both David and Oscar with nary a problem... and i thought we were talking 130-140... Have you seen Arguello vs the green Rolando Navarette? it was a good fight in nicaragua, although the fight was stopped on his stool, rolando gave him some trouble... AND if a green navarette can give him trouble and Andy can put him down on his seat, I absolutely think Manny can do a lot better than both.. i understand but i can also say if nedal hussein can put manny on his ass with one punch......so can alexis. i can also say if agapito sanchez can give manny problems so can alexis right? i don't know......maybe i'm biased towards the older fighters. it's growing up watching old videos of old fighters with my dad. arguello was one of my dad's favorites. i hope you're right about manny's chin above 130 though.

please don't compare alexis arguello to david diaz and oscar de la hoya. arguello was a great fighter. I Know who Alexis is, he is not only great he is a legend, i lost some sleep when he koed the original Hawaiian Punch Andy Ganigan, but before be able to do that he got KD by Andy... and common tuaman, do you think Alexis can beat Prime Oscar?? i think pac has a good chin. but we're talking about fights at 130-135 here. the 2 guys he fought above 130 barely landed on him. how do we know how good his chin is above 130? in fact......most of his fights at 130 were against guys who came from 122 and/or 126 like he did. PAC still got hit by both David and Oscar with nary a problem... and i thought we were talking 130-140... Have you seen Arguello vs the green Rolando Navarette? it was a good fight in nicaragua, although the fight was stopped on his stool, rolando gave him some trouble... AND if a green navarette can give him trouble and Andy can put him down on his seat, I absolutely think Manny can do a lot better than both..

your hawaiian homie Ganigan clocked him good in the 1st rd. he had trouble with ray mancini's aggression, aaron pryor's... will pac be able to take his shots? i really don't know. it took him 14 rds. of battering to dispose off come forward fighter boom boom mancini pac will batter him with his quick in-and-out assault, he's too slow for pac. mancini and pryor are not nobodies. we'll see. i might change my mind about this matchup when manny's career is done. right now , i'll go with alexis.

please don't compare alexis arguello to david diaz and oscar de la hoya. Arguello was a great fighter. don't stand in front of alexis arguello!!!

i've only seen alexis lose by tko (against pryor). i know he's lost by ko before but i've never seen that fight. it was when he was still young at 126 and the fight was in nicaragua. all those fights at 126 , 130 , 135 and 140......it's pretty safe to say alexis has a good chin. it's not like pryor knocked him the hell out with one punch. will pac be able to take arguello's punch? your hawaiian homie Ganigan clocked him good in the 1st rd. he had trouble with ray mancini's aggression, aaron pryor's... will pac be able to take his shots? i really don't know. it took him 14 rds. of battering to dispose off come forward fighter boom boom mancini pac will batter him with his quick in-and-out assault, he's too slow for pac.

I am done underestimating PAC's Chin ... HE CAN TAKE THOSE PUNCHES AND THEN SOME... he is no longer the skinny vulnerable kid back then, he can take punches from both head and body... i think pac has a good chin. but we're talking about fights at 130-135 here. the 2 guys he fought above 130 barely landed on him. how do we know how good his chin is above 130? in fact......most of his fights at 130 were against guys who came from 122 and/or 126 like he did.

that's very good statement... PAC has been improving a lot on defense and movement, lately HIS last two fights PAC did not get hit anything significant by both guys who is relatively bigger AND SLOWER than him... actual fight it will be a good one, P4P PAC by a mile... please don't compare alexis arguello to david diaz and oscar de la hoya. arguello was a great fighter.

will pac be able to take arguello's punch? I am done underestimating PAC's Chin ... HE CAN TAKE THOSE PUNCHES AND THEN SOME... he is no longer the skinny vulnerable kid back then, he can take punches from both head and body...

Question is, will he be able to land a clean shot? will Alexis be able to keep Pac off of him? will he be able to take his shots? Like I said, he was slow. that's very good statement... PAC has been improving a lot on defense and movement, lately HIS last two fights PAC did not get hit anything significant by both guys who is relatively bigger AND SLOWER than him... actual fight it will be a good one, P4P PAC by a mile...

Question is, will he be able to land a clean shot? will Alexis be able to keep Pac off of him? will he be able to take his shots? i've only seen alexis lose by tko (against pryor). i know he's lost by ko before but i've never seen that fight. it was when he was still young at 126 and the fight was in nicaragua. all those fights at 126 , 130 , 135 and 140......it's pretty safe to say alexis has a good chin. it's not like pryor knocked him the hell out with one punch. will pac be able to take arguello's punch?

shorter maybe but not smaller. alexis was a twig. besides......it's not like pryor dominated alexis. would manny be able to handle the shots that pryor took from alexis? Question is, will he be able to land a clean shot? will Alexis be able to keep Pac off of him? will he be able to take his shots? Like I said, he was slow.

i don't either. ray was special (even though he did rob hagler. :) ) tommy would have been tough for floyd with his height. even ray couldn't outbox tommy. ray had to slug with tommy. Which is what I said as well. :fing02:

Pacquiao will knock his ass out!

Alexis Arguello was notoriously slow, and had difficulties with southpaws. Andy Ganigan was battering him with lefts before catching him coming in the middle rounds. He couldn't adjust to the speed, and in-your-face agression of the smaller dynamo Aaron Pryor. The Hawk just overwhelmed with a barrage of punches from all angles. That said, Pacquiao decapitates Alexis Arguello in the early rounds. shorter maybe but not smaller. alexis was a twig. besides......it's not like pryor dominated alexis. would manny be able to handle the shots that pryor took from alexis?

Personally, I didn't think Floyd could beat either Ray Leonard or Tommy Hearns at 147. i don't either. ray was special (even though he did rob hagler. :) ) tommy would have been tough for floyd with his height. even ray couldn't outbox tommy. ray had to slug with tommy.

Alexis Arguello was notoriously slow, and had difficulties with southpaws. Andy Ganigan was battering him with lefts before catching him coming in the middle rounds. He couldn't adjust to the speed, and in-your-face agression of the smaller dynamo Aaron Pryor. The Hawk just overwhelmed him with a barrage of punches from all angles. That said, Pacquiao decapitates Alexis Arguello in the early rounds. Pac's speed and power will be too much for him to handle.

what's up with all the manny polls , benny? anyways......i think arguello takes this one. i could change my mind later on the more fights of manny i see at 140 but as of right now i'll make the safe pick and say alexis. alexis was practically unbeatable 126-135. i think he beats floyd mayweather at 130 and 135 tbh. There was a bunch of Floyd polls a while back to see where posters had him against the ATG in certain divisions...so I wanted to see the perspective of Pac as well. There was one on Chavez vs. Duran as well...that was cool. When posters get so hyped up on a fighter after a big win, it's best to see. That's why the Floyd polls were up. Personally, I didn't think Floyd could beat either Ray Leonard or Tommy Hearns at 147.

what's up with all the manny polls , benny? anyways......i think arguello takes this one. i could change my mind later on the more fights of manny i see at 140 but as of right now i'll make the safe pick and say alexis. alexis was practically unbeatable 126-135. i think he beats floyd mayweather at 130 and 135 tbh.