OK...I'm an Andrade fan...this was the first time I saw Bute fight...I think the ref was wrong for what he did...but when i counted the seconds myself I counted a 16 second count from the ref, but Bute was up at 7...even though he looked finished...when he went down the clock had 1 or 2 seconds left...do you think the ref should have waived it off...or do you think (regardless of the long count) Bute should have been cleared to continue and eventually win by decision?
And fights have been stopped due to a fighter being exhausted.
Try again.
Not with 3 seconds to go in round 12 they haven't.
You stop an exhausted fighter that you think will take bad damage before the end of the fight if you don't.
that hardly applies in this fight now does it?
He followed the letter to the law by not focusing on a downed fighter who was having trouble getting up, much less standing?
Ok.
In your fairy tale world.Use your eye's he was exhausted not KTFO.
He followed the letter to the law by not focusing on a downed fighter who was having trouble getting up, much less standing?
Ok.
In your fairy tale world.
agreed...wheres Richard Steele when you need him? haha
Thats why I said he followed the exact letter of the law, he only counted to ten to see if he judged at the end of the standing 8 count that he wasn't totally out of it, I don't think he was after a count of 8 do you?
Incidently I don't think he would have been "in no fit state to continue" even if he had shouted at Andrade to move back, it looked to me like he was leaning on the ropes waiting for the 7 of the 8 count. All boxers do that when they are in trouble.
All boxers lean on the ropes after they get up from a knockdown?
Thats an indication they can't continue.
Thats why I said he followed the exact letter of the law, he only counted to ten to see if he judged at the end of the standing 8 count that he wasn't totally out of it, I don't think he was after a count of 8 do you?
Incidently I don't think he would have been "in no fit state to continue" even if he had shouted at Andrade to move back, it looked to me like he was leaning on the ropes waiting for the 7 of the 8 count. All boxers do that when they are in trouble.
He followed the letter to the law by not focusing on a downed fighter who was having trouble getting up, much less standing?
Ok.
In your fairy tale world.
Are you a moron? Most fight s don't have that much holding because good refs start deducting points for that.Rubbish, you might get a point taken off for holding in 1 out of a 1000 bouts.
Malinaggi was doing as bad for 10 rounds and wasn't even warned.
I think there are plenty of refs out there who would have taken a proper look at Bute and saw that he was out of it and waved it off.
Thats why I said he followed the exact letter of the law, he only counted to ten to see if he judged at the end of the standing 8 count that he wasn't totally out of it, I don't think he was after a count of 8 do you?
Incidently I don't think he would have been "in no fit state to continue" even if he had shouted at Andrade to move back, it looked to me like he was leaning on the ropes waiting for the 7 of the 8 count. All boxers do that when they are in trouble.
Do you even watch boxing?
shit like that happens at every card I have ever watched.
Are you a moron? Most fight s don't have that much holding because good refs start deducting points for that. Stupid little shit who probably just started watching boxing, that kind of holding is ridiculous. And I wanted Bute to win, but still... The ****, I want to watch two people beat the shit out of each other. Not wreslting
What about the excessive holding that the ref took forever to warn bute about?
Do you even watch boxing?
shit like that happens at every card I have ever watched.
The ref and timekeeper followed the rules to the exact letter.
He was overly harsh in his call to move Andrade to the corner but it would have made no difference as the fight was already over the moment Bute stood up.
I think there are plenty of refs out there who would have taken a proper look at Bute and saw that he was out of it and waved it off.
The ref and timekeeper followed the rules to the exact letter.
He was overly harsh in his call to move Andrade to the corner but it would have made no difference as the fight was already over the moment Bute stood up.
Yea Bute went down with only a couple of sceonds left in the fight and got back up at the count of 7 or 8. I don't know what all the big fuss was cause all Bute had to do was get up, And that he did. Give props to Andrade cause he took a beating and was still coming forward. Bute won fair and square.
I think the refs action opened up the controversy talks...Bute looked done...but he did get up...so...cant argue it much...
lol, I just brought this up the other day.
My concern is this,
why was the ref not focused on the fallen Bute who was obviously in pretty bad shape? The ref was more concerned with Andrade and it led to a very fishy situation. He seemed to be looking at both fighters through peripheral vision just waiting for any opportunity to snap at Andrade.
for real...I also noticed right before Andrade knocked him down...the ref kind of hesitated to get out of Andrades way...kind of reminds of me what would of happened if the Taylor vs Chavez fight would have gone to Meldrick...the ref def looked shady though...
I think Bute should have gotten the win(and he did), but out of respect I think Andrade deserved a rematch... But doesn't seem like he is getting one. Also, Bute let me down since he clinched alot in this fight, never let Andrade do any inside work... And it shows why he didn't let Andrade do inside work...
OK...I'm an Andrade fan...this was the first time I saw Bute fight...I think the ref was wrong for what he did...but when i counted the seconds myself I counted a 16 second count from the ref, but Bute was up at 7...even though he looked finished...when he went down the clock had 1 or 2 seconds left...do you think the ref should have waived it off...or do you think (regardless of the long count) Bute should have been cleared to continue and eventually win by decision?
Yea Bute went down with only a couple of sceonds left in the fight and got back up at the count of 7 or 8. I don't know what all the big fuss was cause all Bute had to do was get up, And that he did. Give props to Andrade cause he took a beating and was still coming forward. Bute won fair and square.
OK...I'm an Andrade fan...this was the first time I saw Bute fight...I think the ref was wrong for what he did...but when i counted the seconds myself I counted a 16 second count from the ref, but Bute was up at 7...even though he looked finished...when he went down the clock had 1 or 2 seconds left...do you think the ref should have waived it off...or do you think (regardless of the long count) Bute should have been cleared to continue and eventually win by decision?
lol, I just brought this up the other day.
My concern is this,
why was the ref not focused on the fallen Bute who was obviously in pretty bad shape? The ref was more concerned with Andrade and it led to a very fishy situation. He seemed to be looking at both fighters through peripheral vision just waiting for any opportunity to snap at Andrade.