If Dawson beat Calzaghe it would mean nothing.

Chad Dawson is the man, he will whoop JC if they fight.

You can't score for shit. LOL@Tarver winning. No wonder you love pussboy Joe's workrate Olympic style. How did you score the fight genius?

What! Of course it would be something, Dawsons beats a man that has never been beaten in 46 fights, a Ring pounder for pounder(#3), a 2 weight division champion, the number 1 rated LHW.It would mean alot!

True if Dawson beats JC it wont mean nothing and wont harm JC. If JC loses the haters will say we knew JC was rubbish all along and he got exposed. But the thing is JC is 37 nearly and even if he did lose to Dawson it would be due to age because the bottom line is JC has beaten better opponents than Dawson. So what im saying is if JC does lose, i dont want to hear none of this JC was exposed nonsense. List those better opponents.

True if Dawson beats JC it wont mean nothing and wont harm JC. If JC loses the haters will say we knew JC was rubbish all along and he got exposed. But the thing is JC is 37 nearly and even if he did lose to Dawson it would be due to age because the bottom line is JC has beaten better opponents than Dawson. So what im saying is if JC does lose, i dont want to hear none of this JC was exposed nonsense.

Well there was no indication before the fight that Jones was "dead" as you put it. Before the first fight at least which I scored a draw and many had Tarver winning. Even before the 2nd fight, people didnt think Jones was gonna get beat. So we dont know how Calzaghe will be until he steps in the ring or how much credit Dawson should or shouldnt get for beating him. There was no indication because nobody saw it coming. Who was thinking that muscle weight loss would be harsh on Jones Jr. Who would of thought Roy would not take advice from a Pro and just do it on his own. Although I can't really say nobody since some people were asking if Roy could lose the weight since he was still walking around at near 200 pounds and didn't bother to trim it off right after the Ruiz fight. We only had a slight indication with interviews leading up to the fight where Roy was saying how angry he was for this fight because he is "killing" himself in training to drop the weight. He said he was running and dieting more to lose the weight = over-training. The Tarver fight opened our eyes of what happens when you do that to your body. Back up proof would later come from Tarver vs. Hopkins. Further proof from Chris Bryd vs. Shaun George. I think the ref even said to Byrd he just over-trained. At their age it just makes it worse. Roy lost his legs and showed up pale. He was finished. Calzaghe has a better chance than all the above because he wouldn't be losing weight...just gaining it like Hopkins did. He shouldn't be dead for this fight, but it is true, he isn't going to get any better and it's hard to maintain where he is at right now. The good thing for Joe is he has shown top performances without a decline or much. Kessler might have been his best and that was 1 year ago. Yes, one year might be a long time ago for a 35+ year old fighter, but then where does that leave us with Hopkins?

Dude Calzaghe is 36, At that age Hopkins, Jones, Holyfield and a bunch of others were on top of their careers. These are Calzaghes best years.

Not a lot, but some. Roy was obviously dead when he came back from HW. It's the same with Hopkins when he fought Tarver; not a lot given the circumstances. Calzaghe has a lot more left than Roy had when he faced Tarver, and Tarver when he faced Hopkins. Dawson should get credit if he beats Calzaghe, just not a ton. More than Tarver and Hopkins though. Well there was no indication before the fight that Jones was "dead" as you put it. Before the first fight at least which I scored a draw and many had Tarver winning. Even before the 2nd fight, people didnt think Jones was gonna get beat. So we dont know how Calzaghe will be until he steps in the ring or how much credit Dawson should or shouldnt get for beating him.

People comparing Dawson to Lacy just hate fat Yanks, or haven't seen him fight. 6'3, south paw, fast hands, and has a heart. He has been on the deck, and won. Like I have said before, Zags gets a ton of respect from me. Taking on Dawson would just cement it, win or lose.

You realise it was Jones and Ottke who stoped those fights happening right? Please Cal wouldn't go across the pond to fight the best fighter in the world at the time. Ottke ducked his ass though, Ottke is a disgrace to undefeated records.

He should've fought Sven Ottke, and should've fought Roy Jones about 6 years ago.You realise it was Jones and Ottke who stoped those fights happening right?

It would be a great win on Dawson's resume. Calzaghe is still at this stage a top fighter.

How much credit does Tarver get for beating Roy Jones? Not very much at all and thats considering Jones was the premier fighter in the sport at the time and basically undefeated. But I dont doubt that most would give Chad Dawson a verbal handjob if he beat Calzaghe even thought he's 37 years old. Not a lot, but some. Roy was obviously dead when he came back from HW. It's the same with Hopkins when he fought Tarver; not a lot given the circumstances. Calzaghe has a lot more left than Roy had when he faced Tarver, and Tarver when he faced Hopkins. Dawson should get credit if he beats Calzaghe, just not a ton. More than Tarver and Hopkins though.

Jones wasn't going to fight Joe 6 years ago and the SMW division didn't have lots of big names for Joe to fight. It had plenty of solid fighters and Joe fought most of them. I don't see how fighting Ottke in Germany (where JC needed a KO to win) would have helped his career. The haters here at NSB would just link to boxrec and say Ottke "exposed" Joe even though the decision was rigged. don't the brits do that with the hopkins fight when we all know it was rigged to setup a roy jones mega fight/farce.

How much credit does Tarver get for beating Roy Jones? Not very much at all and thats considering Jones was the premier fighter in the sport at the time and basically undefeated. But I dont doubt that most would give Chad Dawson a verbal handjob if he beat Calzaghe even thought he's 37 years old. 43 year old hopkins beat calzaghe so if prime dawson couldn't beat him my god he sucks. if calzaghe couldn't hit hopkins how is he gonna hit someone who uses their legs while boxing. no more lacy and kessler statues here.

Ture, but how much credit? He still lost to Taylor twice; was still 43 and arguably 8 years past his best. Pavlik was also a Middleweight and might have been exposed. Time will tell. How much credit does Tarver get for beating Roy Jones? Not very much at all and thats considering Jones was the premier fighter in the sport at the time and basically undefeated. But I dont doubt that most would give Chad Dawson a verbal handjob if he beat Calzaghe even thought he's 37 years old.

Nice one. Having said that the ppl who don't give Calzaghe credit for the Hopkins win after seeing how BHop performed against Pavlik are just clowns. Ture, but how much credit? He still lost to Taylor twice; was still 43 and arguably 8 years past his best. Pavlik was also a Middleweight and might have been exposed. Time will tell.

lolololololololol. NO!!! IBO, isn;t even a real organization. Eubanks is the only one that stands out there, and he was well past it at the time. While I agree that Lacy was a bit of a hype-job. It wasn't until he fought Lacy that he trully won his first world title. Being apart of BWAA, lineal titles are the only ones that hold significance to me. Big fights can happen without a title on the line, but lineal titles are the only ones that trully matter when talking about legacy. The thorough beating that Calzaghe gave Lacy in such a big fight (It established the 1st true SMW champion) is a testament to what he should've been doing years ago when he was pissing away his career fighting so-so guys. He should've fought Sven Ottke, and should've fought Roy Jones about 6 years ago. Win or lose (if he fought Ottke in Germany he would've lost no matter how bad he would've beaten him) it would've done more for his legacy than beating a 100 Omar Shiekas. Jeff Lacy gave Joe Calzaghe is chance to shine, and ever since (minus the two defenses against Mandfredo and Bika) Joe has been fighting the best fights. Too bad he didn't start that 7 years ago when it would've served him best. So Lacy was his first big fight, her threw away years of credibility before that. In that case, Roy Jones has never won a world title.

lolololololololol. NO!!! IBO, isn;t even a real organization. Eubanks is the only one that stands out there, and he was well past it at the time. While I agree that Lacy was a bit of a hype-job. It wasn't until he fought Lacy that he trully won his first world title. Being apart of BWAA, lineal titles are the only ones that hold significance to me. Big fights can happen without a title on the line, but lineal titles are the only ones that trully matter when talking about legacy. The thorough beating that Calzaghe gave Lacy in such a big fight (It established the 1st true SMW champion) is a testament to what he should've been doing years ago when he was pissing away his career fighting so-so guys. He should've fought Sven Ottke, and should've fought Roy Jones about 6 years ago. Win or lose (if he fought Ottke in Germany he would've lost no matter how bad he would've beaten him) it would've done more for his legacy than beating a 100 Omar Shiekas. Jeff Lacy gave Joe Calzaghe is chance to shine, and ever since (minus the two defenses against Mandfredo and Bika) Joe has been fighting the best fights. Too bad he didn't start that 7 years ago when it would've served him best. So Lacy was his first big fight, her threw away years of credibility before that. Jones wasn't going to fight Joe 6 years ago and the SMW division didn't have lots of big names for Joe to fight. It had plenty of solid fighters and Joe fought most of them. I don't see how fighting Ottke in Germany (where JC needed a KO to win) would have helped his career. The haters here at NSB would just link to boxrec and say Ottke "exposed" Joe even though the decision was rigged.

Not sure if beating a guy who is the Ring Champ of your division and rated at #3 p4p means nothing tbh. was will mcintyre really p4p #3?