It's gotta come sooner or later (sooner we hope). Floyd must come out of hiding to fight a legitimate Welter Weight. It can only be Margarito. Only a win over Margarito can secure (or salvage) Floyd's legacy. Who wins and why?
IMO Margarito will bludgeon his way thru the vaunted Mayweather defense. He'll catch him and hurt him and then finish him. That's the way I see it.
It'll NEVER happen. I know never is a long time. But NEVER.
However. I'd say Floyd wins by staying away. Floyd has no problem not fighting. Other guys love to trade, which against Margarito is not a good idea. Floyd dodges his way to a 117-111 decision.
Let us hope that sometime during 2009 Floyd announces his return, and is willing to fight Margarito.
We all hope for that. But, sadly the prospects are not good. Floyd doesn't want to fight Margarito because he could get knocked out in front of the whole world.
this is the stupidest part
floyd is too good a fighter for you to simply rely on overpowering him to win
and if he was afraid of bigger stronger guys he wouldnt have fought DLH or baldomir
There you go again....comparing Baldomir to Margarito. That's nonsense. Oscar is the only one, IMO, that can compare with Margarito (or Cotto) and he was over the hill by the time he fought Floyd. But, I do give Floyd credit for that fight. That was the one single fight of Floyd's career that gives me any indication that he could handle a WW of Margarito's size, range, and power. However, the differences between the Oscar that fought Floyd, and Margarito are too large to ignore. The biggest difference is Margarito's stamina. No way he gasses out by the 8th round like Oscar did. AND, incidentally, had Oscar not gassed out, we all know there is a very likely probability that he would have beaten Floyd. So, there you go.
Gets more money fighting Hatton and Oscar
But Margarito would rather fight Mosley 2 million instead of Willaims 4 million
Adding another name to the resume is never a bad thing.
Paul should try it, it might garner him more support.
How old are you kid?
Floyd has fought fighters who could KO him.
Castillo
Corralles
Judah
Corley
Hatton
Hernandez
Get real.
Margarito is an easy target for Floyd.
Oh please. None of those fighters stand a reasonable chance against Margarito, IMO. Maybe a prime Castillo...maybe. But he is too small for Margarito. Your best example would have been DeLaHoya, but he was over the hill when he fought Floyd.
Give it up, man.
Dude your arguments are so childish.
Floyd fought bigger...stronger and even faster fighters then himself.
You think he wont fight Marg who is the slowest ww champ since baldi..please.
What's childish is comparing Margarito to Baldomir. Tell that to Miguel Cotto. He'll tell you to go f&%$ yourself.
Mayweather is ducking Margarito because he afraid he'll get knocked out in front of the whole world.
Floyd makes the WW division seem what it is - his for the taking. I don't care who you are a fan of, looking at this realistically, Floyd wins and, YES I SAID IT, easily. (as easy as winning a 12 round championship fight can be.) Floyd doesn't need to comeback against Margs. He embarasses Margs. He doesn't need to comeback against Cotto because we already established he embarrases Margs who just beat Cotto. Floyd will ONLY come back, for the money. Neither of those two fighters, given Cotto lost, will provoke the kind if money needed. We all know where his money is, should he return.
More excuses. There are no convincing excuses for ducking Margarito. Floyd won't fight Margarito because Margarito is too big and strong. That's it. Period. Game over.
Floyd makes the WW division seem what it is - his for the taking. I don't care who you are a fan of, looking at this realistically, Floyd wins and, YES I SAID IT, easily. (as easy as winning a 12 round championship fight can be.) Floyd doesn't need to comeback against Margs. He embarasses Margs. He doesn't need to comeback against Cotto because we already established he embarrases Margs who just beat Cotto. Floyd will ONLY come back, for the money. Neither of those two fighters, given Cotto lost, will provoke the kind if money needed. We all know where his money is, should he return.
Just as much as I think Cotto was a bad style matchup for Marg.
I think Marg is tailor made for Floyd....The fastest welter vs. the slowest welter...gimme a break.
I think Margarito is the worst style matchup for Mayweather to be honest.
You remember how every fighter's gameplan is to make Mayweather fight 3 minutes of every round? Yeah, well Margarito would actually do it.
Margarito walked right thru Cotto, so he will do the same to Floyd. Floyd's shots bounce right off Margarito. This suggests that Margarito will have little respect for Floyd's power. Therefore, Margarito will feel free to do what he does....walk Floyd down and go about beating him up. Floyd will move away consistently so as not to get trapped on the ropes. His pot shots will have little effect above justscoring points. Early rounds go to Floyd. But, Margarito continues to hunt his man down. The fight will play out like this with great probability until either Floyd gets caught or until Floyd goes into his little "rope a dope light" thing. Either way Floyd now sustains punishment and Margarito starts towin rounds. As Floyd gets tired and beat down, Margarito gets into Floyd with a long flurry of rights, lefts, and uppercuts. Many are blocked with Floyd's arms, but as the fight proceeds, many shots start to land. Margarito again is winning rounds. Continue down this path until Margarito finally hurts Floyd and finishes him, or beats Floyd with a UD.
How often does Floyd rely on his power to keep opponents off of him?
How often does Floyd fight in the middle of the ring?
The answer to both: Not often.
He relies on his legs, so he can slowly back up, back up, back up, all the while throwing shots, and when he gets to the ropes, he quickly spins away and gets back to the middle of the ring so he can repeat the process.
So, whatever your prediction is, it's fine, I just think you are fooling yourself if you point to the Cotto fight as formula for a Margarito victory. Floyd won't be fighting like Cotto... believe it.
It's gotta come sooner or later (sooner we hope). Floyd must come out of hiding to fight a legitimate Welter Weight. It can only be Margarito. Only a win over Margarito can secure (or salvage) Floyd's legacy. Who wins and why?
IMO Margarito will bludgeon his way thru the vaunted Mayweather defense. He'll catch him and hurt him and then finish him. That's the way I see it.
floyd ud. marg = baldomir
Y'all need to watch The Cintron fights and the Cotto fight for your answer..
Nobody in their right mind is going to suggest Mayweather hits harder than Cintron.. Cintrol was teeing off and landing FLUSH power shots.. That were snapping Margarito's head back.. and he just kept Coming.. If Cintron Blocked high.. Marg would go Low always wearing him down..Throwing punches and hitting ANYTHING.. arm,chest,neck wherever..
In the Cotto Fight.. Cotto danced, Cotto Ducked, Cotto threw 5 shot combos that all landed flush.. He threw deadly power shots that once again sent Marg's head snapping back.. Cotto fought the fight of his life,tried every trick in the book.. Margarito JUST KEPT COMING.. Throwing punches from odd angles with that scary REACH.. Hitting arms,shoulders,chest etc etc.. always wearing him down..
Floyd will dance, Floyd will duck,Floyd will dodge, Floyd will counter, Floyd will throw combos, and when it doesn't work.. and Marg is STILL coming..all the while .. WITH HIS REACH landing whatever wherever.. And this where Floyd freaks lose the plot.. Marg WILL land.. Probably not much in the early going.. but enough.. even if it's just Arm and shoulder.. he will land enough..And Floyd will wear down.. as the Bigger and stronger man bears down on him.. His heart breaking.. due to his best arsenal not being enough.. His Body breaking, from the relentless machine in front of him,Flailing with those LONG powerful arms.. Catching Floyd more often and more flush as the fight wears on..
and slowly Floyd breaks down.. and soon the ring isn't big enough to run anymore..
This is the part I find laughable.
Mayweather fans don't want to admit that. Many a post contain,
"he won't hit Floyd".
"Floyd will make him miss."
Oh really?
When was the last time Floyd Mayweather went through an entire fight without taking a single punch?
When was the last time, the slow, wide looping shots of Tonys never connected?
They're living in a fantasy world thinking that Floyd has some magic potion that makes him invisible. They want to think that because its hard for them to come to the realization that,
a. Tony is probably the biggest and strongest fighter he would have ever faced in regards to height and build.
b. Tonys conditioning is just as good if not better than Floyds.
c. Tony loves for fighters to stay on the ropes.
Its always, "easy and wide UD".
Why is Floyd retired then when Margarito is at the top of his game?
"you'll get your shot".
Mayweather just didn't tell anyone it was going to be on Fantasy Island, the place where the best Mayweather matchups ever occured.
Y'all need to watch The Cintron fights and the Cotto fight for your answer..
Nobody in their right mind is going to suggest Mayweather hits harder than Cintron.. Cintrol was teeing off and landing FLUSH power shots.. That were snapping Margarito's head back.. and he just kept Coming.. If Cintron Blocked high.. Marg would go Low always wearing him down..Throwing punches and hitting ANYTHING.. arm,chest,neck wherever..
In the Cotto Fight.. Cotto danced, Cotto Ducked, Cotto threw 5 shot combos that all landed flush.. He threw deadly power shots that once again sent Marg's head snapping back.. Cotto fought the fight of his life,tried every trick in the book.. Margarito JUST KEPT COMING.. Throwing punches from odd angles with that scary REACH.. Hitting arms,shoulders,chest etc etc.. always wearing him down..
Floyd will dance, Floyd will duck,Floyd will dodge, Floyd will counter, Floyd will throw combos, and when it doesn't work.. and Marg is STILL coming..all the while .. WITH HIS REACH landing whatever wherever.. And this where Floyd freaks lose the plot.. Marg WILL land.. Probably not much in the early going.. but enough.. even if it's just Arm and shoulder.. he will land enough..And Floyd will wear down.. as the Bigger and stronger man bears down on him.. His heart breaking.. due to his best arsenal not being enough.. His Body breaking, from the relentless machine in front of him,Flailing with those LONG powerful arms.. Catching Floyd more often and more flush as the fight wears on..
and slowly Floyd breaks down.. and soon the ring isn't big enough to run anymore..
people like you are too stupid too bother with
why is it "pussy" for floyd to fight intelligently against a wrecking ball of a man who is much naturally bigger and stronger and throws a shit load of hurtful punches, you want him to go toe to toe?
FFS
im just messin i know mayweather stands absolutely no chance unless he fights that way i originally said that cause i wanted to piss off burner
This shit is simple...
Marg will throw...Marg will miss.
Floyd will counter and land punches in bunches unanswered.
Floyd will hit and move.
Floyd will block whatever spirited efforts Marg tries.
Floyd will clinch when they get close.
Floyd will smile while doing it.
Floyd is not Cotto..he wont punch and move backwards..he will clinch...he will go tthe body.
Floyd wins 12-0.
This is a mismatch.
Ever seen what happens to guys who try to clinch Margarito? Boom boom boom.
Everything you said was Floyd does this, Floyd does that. What about what Margarito does. It will be more than "swing and miss."
If Margarito swings and lands; what does Floyd do? Move away with potshots? If Margarito lands consistently,especially when Floyd is covering up on the ropes; What happens then? You're putting alot of emphasis on Floyd being able to block all of Margarito's shots. I say Floyd will be successful early on, but after a while things are gonig to get hard because Margarito can't hurt by Floyd and Margarito has great stamina. How can you explain this away?
This shit is simple...
Marg will throw...Marg will miss.
Floyd will counter and land punches in bunches unanswered.
Floyd will hit and move.
Floyd will block whatever spirited efforts Marg tries.
Floyd will clinch when they get close.
Floyd will smile while doing it.
Floyd is not Cotto..he wont punch and move backwards..he will clinch...he will go tthe body.
Floyd wins 12-0.
This is a mismatch.
oh so floyd would fight like a pussy again
Floyd wins every round....with ease.
I don't see the sense. How does he do it? Jab and run, jab and run, etc....all night? I expect Margarito would walk right into Floyd and eventually start to get into him. Once that starts, Floyd won't be able to withstand the onslaught.
I haven't seen any arguments that can get around this analysis.