Every Cotto, Margarito, Williams, and Mayweather fan please come in here!!

williams has unfinished business with quintana. he had the chance of an immediate rematch with margorito but foolishly turned it down now he can wait his turn like all the other also rans lol

**** that i wanna see pwill vs margarito. i hate how they rate marg over pwill in every ranking knowing its bullshit. pwill is the best ww on the planet and he should be in the p4p. he would beat marg and cotto if they would get some balls and fight him. verno is not a bum hes a highly skilled boxer who williams better take seriously. cottos gonna fight jennings or whoever for some paper title when he should have fought pwill for it. i dont know how marg fans can keep a straight face in say hes not running from pwill its sad. 4mill is 4mill how can you past that up during these tough economic times. yeah, marg is being a smart business man

**** that i wanna see pwill vs margarito. i hate how they rate marg over pwill in every ranking knowing its bullshit. pwill is the best ww on the planet and he should be in the p4p. he would beat marg and cotto if they would get some balls and fight him. verno is not a bum hes a highly skilled boxer who williams better take seriously. cottos gonna fight jennings or whoever for some paper title when he should have fought pwill for it. i dont know how marg fans can keep a straight face in say hes not running from pwill its sad. 4mill is 4mill how can you past that up during these tough economic times.

And if there wasn't a clause?? What would you say then?? pwill prob have to get in the back of the line

He got stripped fam, so I dont kno about u but I would rather hold the full WW title then an interim 154 belt. But hey I guess it build his resume right? yeah, but he'd have to fight his mando not quintana

nah, pwill is trying to hold belts at multiple divisions at the same time He got stripped fam, so I dont kno about u but I would rather hold the full WW title then an interim 154 belt. But hey I guess it build his resume right?

Why wouldnt Cotto want a rematch? Not only is it a chance at revenge to beat the guy who gave u ur first L, but its a big PPV fight with lots of money involved. Cotto lets Tony back him up to much, Tony is a bull, Miguel gotta play Matador

P dont got many other options. I'd rather see him try to win the trilogy instead of fighting Andy Kolle or old a$$ Philips but like I sed, he do wat he do nah, pwill is trying to hold belts at multiple divisions at the same time

Look I know there was a rematch clause.....why is it ok for Williams to fight right after his loss for rematch and not "work" his way up, but not for Quintana?? yeah, cuz of the rematch clause

Cotto will have to training to the maximum. He is going to have to be pushed A LOT in sparring, because for the first fight, I kinda thought Cotto was thinking that the fight was gonna go the way he planned and underestimating Tony's power and skill. Look at the first round how Cotto thought he was gonna have the fight in the bag, untill round 2 came when Tony started pressing the action and made the fight a classic in the 7th round. Cotto's chin cannot be improved, but his skill can.. His speed is good as it is, I don't think Cotto will get any faster than what he is as of now. Cotto will have to sacrafice A LOT in this fight. Trading and possibly land a shot, not on Tonys chin, but to the side of the head behind the ear or on the forehead. It has to be a counter, but its easier said than done. I personally think that Cotto would have a better chance if he trades more, rather than moving against the ropes and taking accumalative shots from Tony. Its a tough fight honestly... I don't know why Cotto would want the rematch, but if Cotto doesn't sacrafice he will not beat Tony. Cotto has to keep his punches straight and go to the body.. Regardless... Hit arms, shoulder.... Aim for the middle of Tony's chest... Keep his right hand up at all times. Cotto needs to throw body shots, and he will probably be able to take this fight by a close SD. If any fight goes the distance with Tony, its going to be close. Bar none... That pressure brings everyone to thier feets. Even the judges.

nah williams/quintana 3 is unnecessary unless quintana beats clottey or something P dont got many other options. I'd rather see him try to win the trilogy instead of fighting Andy Kolle or old a$$ Philips but like I sed, he do wat he do

I wouldnt call Williams-Quintana 2 a fluke but I def wanna see a part three, thanks for all the intelligent responses nah williams/quintana 3 is unnecessary unless quintana beats clottey or something

Question 1.. Short of bringing a baseball bat into the ring, I don't see what MORE Cotto can do.. Question 2.. Margarito should rematch Williams.. It's a no brainer.. Question 3... If Williams can be beaten by Quintana.. Then he will lose 10 times out of 10 against Floyd Mayweather.. It's a no brainer Question 4.. Williams should fight a 3rd fight against Quintana... From my point of veiw.. the 2nd fight was a fluke... It's a no brainer I wouldnt call Williams-Quintana 2 a fluke but I def wanna see a part three, thanks for all the intelligent responses

All this Cotto hating and Floyd hating and hating in general, lets have a damn serious discussion like the intellegent boxing fans we supposed to be. For the Cotto fans: What can your boy do to win that rematch against Tony? Cotto claims he tried going to the body, Cotto outboxed him early, Cotto did everything he should have done, what the hell do you recommend him do? I think that Cotto need to work that damn stamina up cuz if not, that chin is gonna make him lose again! For the Margarito fans: Regardless of hate from any fans, do you as Tony fans want to see a Williams rematch? I'm hearing all this trash about Oscar wont fight him, him fighting Mosley, fighting Cotto again, I feel he got unfinished biz with Williams but I want to know if you guys want that fight to happen. For the Mayweather Williams fans: I usually find that most Mayweather fans are also Williams fans so on some G sh!t, who would win that fight if they meet? Flawless claim Williams can beat anyone from 147-160 but do you really feel he cud beat mayweather? I think Mayweather would just show how superior he is and get a wide UD, but when Williams is on tho, he on. And finally, Williams fans, why the hell is he fightin that bum Verno?? I know no one wants to fight him but my dog Carlos wants a third fight so why not make it happen? I know the second fight was a one round blow out but this is boxing, anything can happen, remember Carlos outboxed him in the first fight. Do you guys want to see Williams-Quintana 3, and when? That is all:boxing: Question 1.. Short of bringing a baseball bat into the ring, I don't see what MORE Cotto can do.. Question 2.. Margarito should rematch Williams.. It's a no brainer.. Question 3... If Williams can be beaten by Quintana.. Then he will lose 10 times out of 10 against Floyd Mayweather.. It's a no brainer Question 4.. Williams should fight a 3rd fight against Quintana... From my point of veiw.. the 2nd fight was a fluke... It's a no brainer

I highly doubt Floyd ko's Tony, an iron chin is an iron chin, but he would beat him tho. Thanks to all the unbiased responses and as far as stamina, one builds that with intense cardio training. Cotto will need that for the rematch

Well, cotto said he never had the real chance throw effective body shots but he also said there would be no excuses. if Margarito fought floyd he would break down marg with body shots and when marg puts pressure on him little floyd would bounce off the ropes and hit him with combos. I dont think other people realise that cottos punches didnt have much power or substance to them. if they did his punches would of knocked him out. little floyd would use both his hands to coun ter margarito and get a late stoppage or a desicion over marg.

All this Cotto hating and Floyd hating and hating in general, lets have a damn serious discussion like the intellegent boxing fans we supposed to be. For the Cotto fans: What can your boy do to win that rematch against Tony? Cotto claims he tried going to the body, Cotto outboxed him early, Cotto did everything he should have done, what the hell do you recommend him do? I think that Cotto need to work that damn stamina up cuz if not, that chin is gonna make him lose again! For the Margarito fans: Regardless of hate from any fans, do you as Tony fans want to see a Williams rematch? I'm hearing all this trash about Oscar wont fight him, him fighting Mosley, fighting Cotto again, I feel he got unfinished biz with Williams but I want to know if you guys want that fight to happen. For the Mayweather Williams fans: I usually find that most Mayweather fans are also Williams fans so on some G sh!t, who would win that fight if they meet? Flawless claim Williams can beat anyone from 147-160 but do you really feel he cud beat mayweather? I think Mayweather would just show how superior he is and get a wide UD, but when Williams is on tho, he on. And finally, Williams fans, why the hell is he fightin that bum Verno?? I know no one wants to fight him but my dog Carlos wants a third fight so why not make it happen? I know the second fight was a one round blow out but this is boxing, anything can happen, remember Carlos outboxed him in the first fight. Do you guys want to see Williams-Quintana 3, and when? That is all:boxing: 1) cotto need to improve the stamina or reduce the output 2) marg should fight williams 3) williams too big too active for floyd imho

All this Cotto hating and Floyd hating and hating in general, lets have a damn serious discussion like the intellegent boxing fans we supposed to be. considering the level of idiocy of late this is a welcome relief. I will answer all since I do consider myself a fan of all of them at some level or another. For the Cotto fans: What can your boy do to win that rematch against Tony? Cotto claims he tried going to the body, Cotto outboxed him early, Cotto did everything he should have done, what the hell do you recommend him do? keep it in the middle of the ring by turning Margarito instead of walking backwards whenever Tony pursued. Keep the jab pumping to throw off Tony's rythym as hard as it is to believe Tony is a rythym fighter as well. Keep the attack short and do not engage in long trading of punches with Tony I think that Cotto need to work that damn stamina up cuz if not, that chin is gonna make him lose again! stamina isn't necessarily something you can train for. More times than not its either you have it or you don't. We have seen Cotto tire several times so I am not sure what more can be done to improve it. For the Margarito fans: Regardless of hate from any fans, do you as Tony fans want to see a Williams rematch? I'm hearing all this trash about Oscar wont fight him, him fighting Mosley, fighting Cotto again, I feel he got unfinished biz with Williams but I want to know if you guys want that fight to happen. of course! Tony's biggest fans want to see him avenge his loss so I think that point is a given. Can he? Yeah I think he can. There is an agression factor of late for Tony he didnt have that I think can make a difference. : I usually find that most Mayweather fans are also Williams fans so on some G sh!t, who would win that fight if they meet? Flawless claim Williams can beat anyone from 147-160 but do you really feel he cud beat mayweather? I think Mayweather would just show how superior he is and get a wide UD, but when Williams is on tho, he on. Williams has a style and a stance that would pose problems for Mayweather. Mayweather for once would have to be on the offensive rather than site back and potshot. Williams style does lend itself better to guys who can dig in his chest and land leads but Mayweather would have to commit to do it and I am nit sure the 147lb version of Mayweather would. And finally, Williams fans, why the hell is he fightin that bum Verno?? I know no one wants to fight him but my dog Carlos wants a third fight so why not make it happen? I know the second fight was a one round blow out but this is boxing, anything can happen, remember Carlos outboxed him in the first fight. Do you guys want to see Williams-Quintana 3, and when? That is all:boxing: because Verno has a belt....Carlos not so much. His win over Quintana was emphatic enough to not warrant a third fight to be honest.

As a promotor, I wouldnt want to see him fight Santos cuz he's lost and interest wouldnt be there. If anything i'd make Santos drop to 147 to fight Tony. But A P Will fight so close after a Cotto fight is a bad move, I would make that a October November fight depending on the scars I see what your saying and yeah, Marg will have to heal up after the Cotto fight BUT its just wishful thinking.... As for Santos, i think it would be a good fight either way at 147/154 and would do good #'s in PR or Mexico........

Cotto can't beat Marg. He will lose again and lose worse than the 1st time. Hell yea, all fans should want Marg-Pwill 2. Williams would break PBF off sumthin. he's the only cat at 147 I'd favor over PBF. Nothin wrong wit Pwill fightin Verno since he couldn't get no one else at the moment. I ain't screamin for Pwill-CQ 3, but I wouldn't be against it. Damn good thread Dice. Thanks, I try, I figured lets talk about something more constructive then just hate