Mainly asking the Calzaghe fans here.
Has Joe ever been in there against anyone who rips to the body as hard and consistently as Dawson does? A lot is made of Calzaghe relentless punch output, and rightly so, it is extremely impressive. In my analysis of the fight it is this factor that causes me to lean towards Joe to win a decision in this matchup.
Having said that it is well known that body punches can restrict a fighters punch output. It drains your strength and as the fight wears on you find it more difficult to throw 80+ punches per round.
So I am just wondering how Joe fans think he would stand up to Dawson's body punches, given that he has shown that he is able to attack the body with a high degree of success in his outings to date.
This fight in my opinion would be decided by the jab, when calzaghe faces really good fighters his jab is normally the deciding factor towards victory, as I was watching the Kessler fight early on I thought it could go either way, but in the middle and latter rounds calzaghe's jab was just too fast for kessler.
Saying this Dawson has a good strong jab also, ultimately I think it is a close fight with both fighters struggling to land on each other dawson landing the harder single shots and calzaghe with better work rate and flurrying I think both fighters would struggle to land to the body. I think calzaghe would maybe win a close decision, as from what I have seen from dawson he likes to fight in spurts and then takes time off in rounds to catch his breath which is why he struggled against johnson. But if he can offset calzaghe in those periods with his jab and good movment then he could easily win, also there is the fact that calzaghe could become old, as I have seen signs of a little slipping in the last couple of years.
Joe was already on the downslide when he fought Lacy. Have you bothered to download his prime fights?
Joe's list of defenses is similar to Hopkins's.
Jus one thing. I don't believe pre-Lacy to be exclusively Joe's prime. He is a complicated fighter and putting your finger on exactly when his prime was/is is very difficult.
Having said that, if indeed his prime was pre-Lacy, it is perhaps the most apparent waste of a boxer's prime in the entire history of this sport. How a man who nearly reaches the top of the p4p rankings and defeats two ring legends can have a best win of a past-prime Eubank on his prime resume would be incredible.
I get upset when i see how hard ppl ride this guy (calzaghe)
the guy is nothing special.
lets be real
i hate to explain myself 43254325 times about his career..
This is a very arrogant post. Nobody is forcing or even asking you to explain your opinion. Everyone here has their own opinion on Joe Calzaghe and we are not asking you to force yours down our throats. You need to accept that we are individuals, we all like different things for different reasons, so please lay off with your rants on how much you dislike a fighter, how worthless he is, etc. You have the attitude of a fascist dictator.
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it wasnt until the lacy fight until joe broke out of his protected shell and started fighting quote unquote, better comptetion..
Joe was already on the downslide when he fought Lacy. Have you bothered to download his prime fights?
Joe's list of defenses is similar to Hopkins's.
At this point Dawson would not be able to adjust to the unorthodox timing of Joe's volleys.
Also, the fact that Dawson is a high-output fighter would work against him.
Dawson would fare much better against Hopkins, but still he should avoid that as well. He doesn't need it. He's got his names from the previous generation. He needs to fight Diaconu and the others his age.
Maybe he would be too embarrassed fighting a guy much smaller then himself. And Glen Johnsons huge losses on his record like 11 losses or more probably wouldn't look good on Calzaghes record for fighting some one with that many losses even though most people know johnson was robbed in alot of his fight...
Uhhh Johnson is a Lighty Heavyweight and Calzaghe fought the majority of his career at Super Middleweight so how is Johnson "smaller"? Also i guess Sakio Bika and Peter Manfredo look better on Calzaghes resume then Glenn Johnson who beat Tarver and knocked out Roy Jones........
I get upset when i see how hard ppl ride this guy (calzaghe)
the guy is nothing special.
lets be real
i hate to explain myself 43254325 times about his career..
theres a reason joe conveniantly was injured 3 times with johnson
joe was also on the verge of NOT fightin lacy when he was injured 2ce as well.
then finally manned up and fought him and whooped his ass..
it wasnt until the lacy fight until joe broke out of his protected shell and started fighting quote unquote, better comptetion..
Dawson would tear that up.. but we will never know what will truly happen unless calz takes this fight.. and if he does, if he just takes this fight, hell have some of my respect
Calzaghe never fought Johnson.
Maybe he would be too embarrassed fighting a guy much smaller then himself. And Glen Johnsons huge losses on his record like 11 losses or more probably wouldn't look good on Calzaghes record for fighting some one with that many losses even though most people know johnson was robbed in alot of his fight...
I think Chad Dawson craps himself when he realizes that Joe Calzaghe isn't a glen johnson clone and is far superior to Glen Johnson. The same middle weight that gave Chad Dawson problems and could have possibly put a dent on Dawson's resume.
He struggled against Glen Johnson, now he is all of a suddenly going to walk through Joe Calzaghe? Oh, okay... LOL
Calzaghe never fought Johnson, in fact he pulled out three times. I like how people take a fight in which a fighter is learning at a young age, and make it seem like he cannot correct those mistakes( which he did). He made tactical mistakes, and he and Eddie Muhammad both admitted that it made Dawson a better fighter. Calzaghe cannot punch, he is not orthodox, his chin is not as good as Johnson's and he doesn't throw volume punches like that. He will not have the kind of power that Johnson had and will respect Dawson's power.
I think Chad Dawson craps himself when he realizes that Joe Calzaghe isn't a glen johnson clone and is far superior to Glen Johnson. The same middle weight that gave Chad Dawson problems and could have possibly put a dent on Dawson's resume.
He struggled against Glen Johnson, now he is all of a suddenly going to walk through Joe Calzaghe? Oh, okay... LOL
I think the body work will have an effect on Joe, but i think the boxing ability, an effective jab and his harder and more effective punches will be more of a factor. I think Dawson will unlike Jones and Hopkins, have enough stamina to consistently back Joe off and have him think twice about coming in. Dawson's leaping right hook he looks to throw against southpaws is a lethal weapon.
Joe's in and out movement makes it very hard to setup and deliver good body shots against him.
I accept that Shawn. I guess it becomes an issue of whether Dawson would be able to take the necessary punishment to land those body shots, which is pretty tough to do.
Mainly asking the Calzaghe fans here.
Has Joe ever been in there against anyone who rips to the body as hard and consistently as Dawson does? A lot is made of Calzaghe relentless punch output, and rightly so, it is extremely impressive. In my analysis of the fight it is this factor that causes me to lean towards Joe to win a decision in this matchup.
Having said that it is well known that body punches can restrict a fighters punch output. It drains your strength and as the fight wears on you find it more difficult to throw 80+ punches per round.
So I am just wondering how Joe fans think he would stand up to Dawson's body punches, given that he has shown that he is able to attack the body with a high degree of success in his outings to date.
Joe's in and out movement makes it very hard to setup and deliver good body shots against him.