You guys are too hard on the HW division

just two years ago the HW division was in a even bigger shitter. Back then we had 3 decent prospects / contenders / champions. It was Wlad, Peter, and Brock. Now atleast we have some REAL potential from guys like Haye and Dimintrenko. We have Vitali back and Chageav has shown himself worthy. Its not nearly as bad as people are claiming. Lets see, we also have Arreola (sp), and that Povetkin kid. Remember two years ago the name in the HW division were Toney, Rahman, Wlad, and Briggs. We've come along way. Im ready to see Wlad get beat now, because if he would have been beaten two years ago it would have been embarassing to the HW division. it's still a front loaded division... ie shitty, not to mention vitaly and wlad will never fight. worse HW era EVER.

just two years ago the HW division was in a even bigger shitter. Back then we had 3 decent prospects / contenders / champions. It was Wlad, Peter, and Brock. Now atleast we have some REAL potential from guys like Haye and Dimintrenko. We have Vitali back and Chageav has shown himself worthy. Its not nearly as bad as people are claiming. Lets see, we also have Arreola (sp), and that Povetkin kid. Remember two years ago the name in the HW division were Toney, Rahman, Wlad, and Briggs. We've come along way. Im ready to see Wlad get beat now, because if he would have been beaten two years ago it would have been embarassing to the HW division. its kind of hard not to hate on the division when the guys in that division come into fights way overweight with man tits of fat its disgusting. what happened to inshape heavies like lennox, tyson, holy, spinks i mean cmon the only heavies that come in noticable shape are the klits.. props to them even tho wlad is a bit boring to watch

Haye isn't beating wlad - i mean he's got a punchers chance but not more than that. he'd most likely get KO'd But on topic, the HW division is much stronger than 2 years ago for sure. PBack then Lyackovich (sp) and Briggs were in the mix. Now we have both klits and chagaev as well as Povetkin and Dimitrenko.

The heavyweights are very mistreated Indeed... If Wlad losing meant that people would give the division more respect.. then I suppose i could put personal feelings aside.. and say it would be good for the Division.. But somehow people will always find something to piss and moan about.. it's human nature..

Good thread, I agree 100%. Even that your ready to see Wlad lose now? LOL jk Its not that I WANT him to lose now, I just wouldnt see it as a bad thing for the division. Like if say Ray Austin KOed Wlad, that would have been aweful. Now if Haye or Dimitrenko beats him it wouldn't have the same "omg the HW suck" feel.

David Haye could beat my favorite fighters if he doesn't rush his career at heavyweight. But I have a feeling he wants Wlad asap, which is awesome for me. If he took his time, and didn't rush for a fight against Wlad. I'd give a him a good shot at beating wlad. But Haye will never ever be able to beat Vitali.