Calzaghe-Jones does 225k buys or less

For having a 24/7 attached to it, those are very poor numbers. Production of 24/7 I hear is very expensive, and usually reserved for guaranteed big tickets. Someone dropped the ball. HBO did........from the moment they announced this would get a 24/7 i said ithey were crazy...might as well have made one for pacquiao-marquez 2 which did 450k PPV's...... seriously i mean its like the people with the money in boxing (tv networks-promoters-managers-famous fighters) are ****ing up the sport for the future for being total idiots...(some will say only in america, but lets face it, america is the only market non european boxers can earn millions...) fighters are overpayed, promoters dont even want to put money off their own pockets and depend on the networks, networks buy stupid ass fights and dont put pressure on fighters-promoters to offer good fights... :nono:

for the the draw was tito not rjj imo . . .

For having a 24/7 attached to it, those are very poor numbers. Production of 24/7 I hear is very expensive, and usually reserved for guaranteed big tickets. Someone dropped the ball.

Did HBO ever release an official PPV number for the Cotto-Margarito fight?

i dont get where people think Roy is a huge draw............i mean im a huge fan of his but his PPV history is piss poor.......his only decent PPV #'s before 2003 was Toney wich did like 300k.......then he did like 650k vs Ruiz and around 350k for each Tarver fight.......Trinidad was the draw in their fight....and he did better numbers with Winky Wright.......

i am not surprised, even with the 24/7 truth is the outcome was all but set before the fight and JC is not well known or liked in north america. i ended up watching the fight in a bar and no one even knew who JC was and where he was from. RJJ Trinidad did better because of all the PRs and because it was 2 well known well liked fighters in america. trinidad had some amazing epic huge fights so it makes all the sense in the world for it doing better. I understand what your saying, but this speaks numbers it really does. All that's said of RJJ versus Tito, is that RJJ is shot facing an old blown up Tito. All I'll say is that it was the opposite this side of the Atlantic. Thus it wasn't taken too much notice of here. The SMW and LHW #1 facing RJJ was rightfully taken more notice of.

Good to see. This fight imo should not have been on ppv and the undercard was one of the worst i have ever seen. :firedevil c'mon.... people knew that rjj was shot...

i am not surprised, even with the 24/7 truth is the outcome was all but set before the fight and JC is not well known or liked in north america. i ended up watching the fight in a bar and no one even knew who JC was and where he was from. RJJ Trinidad did better because of all the PRs and because it was 2 well known well liked fighters in america. trinidad had some amazing epic huge fights so it makes all the sense in the world for it doing better.

I'm not gonna lie, I thought with the 24/7 treatment and the name Roy Jones, it'd do a lot better. I was expecting 400 plus. HBO probably lost shit loads of money on this. Those shows cost a fortune.

Jones only did HBO PPV for Ruiz, maybe the Tarver rematch (?), Trinidad and did indy PPVs for Hanshaw & Ajamu his entire career.... Toney, Griffin II, Gonzalez, and Harding were also PPVs. Of those, only the Toney fight did solid numbers. The Ruiz fight changed Roy's PPV numbers, because all 3 Tarver fights after that were PPV, and did solid numbers. The Trinidad fight did good #s as well.

Hopkins/Pavlik did under 200,000 as well. Neither were worthy of PPV imo anyways. Boxing is really shooting itself in its foot by puting up too many PPV's and too many non-worthy PPVs as well. Last year HBO had I believe 6 total PPVs. I think it's at or over 10 already for 2008. IMO there should be no more then 3-4 PPV fights a year! A critical time is coming for American boxing since all of it's stars are old and near retirement. It would serve itself well in the long run to have LESS PPV's, or else it will only alienate fighters from the masses even further and there simply will no longer be any real american star fighters. I think last year HBO had 9 ppv's and they promised to cut that number this year which i think they did. But for anyone who doesn't think the economy is a factor is plain dumb. The economy has affected alot of things and the citizens of america is what's affected. Either way the card sucked!

Hopkins/Pavlik did under 200,000 as well. Neither were worthy of PPV imo anyways. Boxing is really shooting itself in its foot by puting up too many PPV's and too many non-worthy PPVs as well. Last year HBO had I believe 6 total PPVs. I think it's at or over 10 already for 2008. IMO there should be no more then 3-4 PPV fights a year! A critical time is coming for American boxing since all of it's stars are old and near retirement. It would serve itself well in the long run to have LESS PPV's, or else it will only alienate fighters from the masses even further and there simply will no longer be any real american star fighters. PPV debate was good a few months ago. I agree, more than a few a year has said a few a year tops awhile ago. But loads more are being put on in the hope it simply means more money. It usually doesn't, it means less trust in the system, and less money. All the various PPV's are shooting themselves in the foot, the more there are un planned later in the year, the worse it gets all round, especially in current times. There's too much reliance on the PPV format as it is, in the UK, and usually I think in Europe, such prices so often are just not acceptable. The balance books need to be looked at because some promotional companies are raking it in ridiculously whilst others are being more conservative generally in the scene.

Hatton -Malignaggi wouldn't do 100 K in the US, it's on free HBO.... oh thats good then. I think I will just stream it instead of paying for the Box Office. opefully can get a HBO stream for it instead of the Sky one.

I'm glad someone else feels my pain lol. Also, DVD's of the fights NEVER come out (I think Corrales-Freitas is the only one I've seen either network put out) and it's rare that you ever see replays except now on SHO2 and ESPN Classic. You can pick up WWE or TNA or UFC or K-1 or EliteXC etc. on DVDs at the mall or from amazon.com or wal-mart. No way to get ahold of fights unless you get obscure cable channels and you stalk the schedule (I miss Sunshine Network, MSG, etc. on the directv sports pak when I had a satellite) Another thing that keeps other combat sports popular is ****e TV is replaying their PPV's a couple months after the main events and mixed in its compilation shows. Let's say a fan wanted to watch Calzaghe-Lacy or Jones-Hopkins before the fight. They can't go rent it and HBO didn't even own the rights to the Calzaghe fight to air it...

I cant believe in America they have PPV's for the price of $49.99. that is crazy. I thought our prices of £14.99 were bad. I wonder what they reckon they will do for the Hatton and Malignaggi fight. I think Sky Box Office are putting the next Amir Khan fight on Box Office. Hatton -Malignaggi wouldn't do 100 K in the US, it's on free HBO....

I'm kind of glad. The undercard sucked, hell even the main event was more of name recognition than a quality matchup. Jones hadn't shown anything impressive in the ring since 2003. Jones only did HBO PPV for Ruiz, maybe the Tarver rematch (?), Trinidad and did indy PPVs for Hanshaw & Ajamu his entire career....

I only went to one Closed Circuit event, but I kind of liked it. DLH-Chavez 1. The atmosphere was intense, although since it was at least half Mexican, they were all mad at the end. I've heard a lot of bad things about closed circuits, but I wouldn't mind seeing one or two of those a year.

What did Oscar and Mayweather do? was that big numbers? Is this fight been hyped much in the states? Mayweather vs Oscar did 2.4 million buys. PPV's need to be only 1-2 a year, Phuck paying for HBO,Showtime,Cable,Internet plus 55 dollar PPV's each month to be a boxing fan.

Now there will be a lot of focus on what DLH-Pacquiao does. A poor buy rate may change PPV forever. What did Oscar and Mayweather do? was that big numbers? Is this fight been hyped much in the states?

Now there will be a lot of focus on what DLH-Pacquiao does. A poor buy rate may change PPV forever.