Ali vs Marciano

Vitali would knock them all out, including Ali. Your joking right? It cracks me up when anyone mentions Ali being KO'D. Ali is one of the most durable fighters the world has ever seen! He fought in the best heavyweight division there has ever been, against the hardest punchers the division has ever seen, so how the **** is anyone else gonna KO him? Only time he got stopped was against Holmes an he was riddled wi parkinsons then, an even then it was Dundee who stopped the fight. Ali to beat Rocky by a landslide, or on cuts.

Ali would win UD or possibly a late round KO. Marciano was a pressure fighter a bit like Frazier. Ali's footwork and skill was a thing a beauty,Pre exile Ali beats any heavyweight in history.

wsnt marciano 5 feet 10 and 185-188 pounds? that would be as if a small cruiserweights from this day n age were to meet a real heavyweight. no-way

flaming of another member. i think it's the cause of most people getting banned from here. but once i came back, i moved on and decided it wasnt worth it. im here for boxing anyway. it's good they let you back man, you're a good poster. Thanks mate, So are you. Boxingscene is the land of forgiveness!

In the infamous Jin Mosley thread I started writing stuff to her because I didn't think it was really her, I thought it was an ALT so I had a little fun with it! I missed Big Poppa's warning earlier in the thread because I was watching a Gamboa stream. I came back and found myself banned! I wrote very apologetic emails and was given another chance! What were you banned for? flaming of another member. i think it's the cause of most people getting banned from here. but once i came back, i moved on and decided it wasnt worth it. im here for boxing anyway. it's good they let you back man, you're a good poster.

so was i, what was the cause? In the infamous Jin Mosley thread I started writing stuff to her because I didn't think it was really her, I thought it was an ALT so I had a little fun with it! I missed Big Poppa's warning earlier in the thread because I was watching a Gamboa stream. I came back and found myself banned! I wrote very apologetic emails and was given another chance! What were you banned for?

Ali would box circles around Marciano for 15 rounds. A cut stoppage is possible. Ali could take serious amounts of punishment, so Marciano's bruising style wouldnt be a problem.

That's why I love it here!! I got banned once :pat:.... That was a scary couple of days!! so was i, what was the cause?

that's how we all are, we learn something new everyday about our favourite sport. :beerchug: That's why I love it here!! I got banned once :pat:.... That was a scary couple of days!!

All fans are guilty of underestimating or just having a different outlook on certain things! It's been an informative, educated discussion! I've not seeen a lot of Marciano fights (just a couple) so I needed to seek the answer from the wealth of boxing knowledge we have here on boxingscene!! that's how we all are, we learn something new everyday about our favourite sport. :beerchug:

i hope that he doesnt think so. and i wasnt implying it, thanks for clearing that up. i was leaning more towards some fans underestimating certain things, i tend to do that too on some levels. But i enjoyed the discussion as well. All fans are guilty of underestimating or just having a different outlook on certain things! It's been an informative, educated discussion! I've not seeen a lot of Marciano fights (just a couple) so I needed to seek the answer from the wealth of boxing knowledge we have here on boxingscene!!

I don't think he Boogie implied you were! I've really enjoyed this informative discussion!! i hope that he doesnt think so. and i wasnt implying it, thanks for clearing that up. i was leaning more towards some fans underestimating certain things, i tend to do that too on some levels. But i enjoyed the discussion as well.

I'm no boxing dummy. I don't think he Boogie implied you were! I've really enjoyed this informative discussion!!

well i see that you already agree, so we're all good :) I'm no boxing dummy.

Clearly. Punching was Ali's most underrated skill. The guy had a sick combination of timing, quickness, placement, and leverage. He punched at different speeds, which is a very vital tool. Ali was a very good puncher. From a pure power stance, Ali didn't hit as hard as some, but that doesn't mean the guy couldn't KO the top level guys.well i see that you already agree, so we're all good :)

Rocky would be getting hit by Ali, not Shavers-Foreman-Frazier etc. I see that you are saying Ali took those guys shots, so he could probably take Rocco's. Ali was a good puncher, but he wasn't going to stop Rocky based on his punching power (which is what I said from the start). I did say that Rocky being cut/stopped was a legitimate possibility. So, yes, Ali was more probable to get a stoppage on cuts, but not from punching power.that's exactly what i wanted to say. i only used the late stoppage theory, because if ali was in the control of the fight, he might as well go for it if he felt that he could. Ali's power is nowhere on the level of say tyson's or foreman, but crap about him punching like a featherweight is not true. Im not saying that you said that, but time to time i hear others say it. Ali could hurt fighters, but he traded power for speed.

Fair enough Hest, but Ali could bang when he got of his toes and planted his feet. He has a fair few KO's for a 'light puncher'. Liston, Foreman, Patterson... Clearly. Punching was Ali's most underrated skill. The guy had a sick combination of timing, quickness, placement, and leverage. He punched at different speeds, which is a very vital tool. Ali was a very good puncher. From a pure power stance, Ali didn't hit as hard as some, but that doesn't mean the guy couldn't KO the top level guys.

Fair enough Hest, but Ali could bang when he got of his toes and planted his feet. He has a fair few KO's for a 'light puncher'. Liston, Foreman, Patterson...

the records of walcott's birth date were said to be inacurate, which was said about a lot of fighters in those days. Walcott could, or could not have been past 40. The theory was pointed to that he was.The point being, he was still an old man, who was in the stages of his last couple of fights. In fact the rocky rematch was his last. i think it's more believeable to say that Ali had a better chance of stopping rocky, than the other way around. Rocky's chin was pretty good, but he was never hit by foreman, shavers, or frazier. rocky could be cut, aside from walcott, he never fought anyone who used fast combination punching. Rocky would be getting hit by Ali, not Shavers-Foreman-Frazier etc. I see that you are saying Ali took those guys shots, so he could probably take Rocco's. Ali was a good puncher, but he wasn't going to stop Rocky based on his punching power (which is what I said from the start). I did say that Rocky being cut/stopped was a legitimate possibility. So, yes, Ali was more probable to get a stoppage on cuts, but not from punching power. Aight bro. But let us be clear that it would be a complete beat down. RM would probably get stopped, certainly lose a UD with high chance of a shut out. Ali, even in his prime, lost rounds from time to time. I think it's a clear win for Ali, but not a beatdown. Rocky would have his moments, maybe even hurt Ali at some point. I agree Ali would most likely win a wide decision, but Rocky would land (and he won't be stopped unless the ref stopped it via cuts).

Read my first post. I said Rocky would get beat by decision. I was simply typing back exactly what Boogie typed first; a factless opinion. Aight bro. But let us be clear that it would be a complete beat down. RM would probably get stopped, certainly lose a UD with high chance of a shut out.