over the next 2 yrs against lets say... 2 very good oppts. ala dawson, and bhop.......than the other 2 fights against decent names like bika, and the like and won all four making him 50-0, would that silence most of his critics? what would he mean to you if he did this?
over the next 2 yrs against lets say... 2 very good oppts. ala dawson, and bhop.......than the other 2 fights against decent names like bika, and the like and won all four making him 50-0, would that silence most of his critics? what would he mean to you if he did this?
if he did that and got to 50-0 he'd be a guaranteed ATG.
You can't silence the detractors because nobody discredits Calzaghe's current ability or recent wins... it's about what those in their prime such as Jones or Hopkins would have done against them.
Or people like me, who feel his style (although his performance against Jones was better) is bad for boxing.
Joe knew he couldn't pitter patter Jones for 12 rounds, so worked on putting more into every punch.
That's why the fight was postponed, Joe busted one of his hands in training trying to up the ammount of power behind his shots.
don't matter if he does this, the doubters will still say dawson was overated, or b'hop is to old or all the other excuses not to recognise he is the best fighter of his era. he may slap but they all say it hurts on the recieving end. and it don't matter if he does if you cant hurt him, the knock downs seem to switch him on and his pain receptors off. so the single big punches mean nothing. 1000 slaps beat 1 meaningless bomb.
so joe retire. the real boxing fans know how it is
by the way i didn,t enjoy the fight as i'm a massive jones jr fan and he should have done what joe should do and retire at the top. the ruiz fight should have been the last :firedevil
I agree after he became Heavy Weight Champion Of The World there was much left to prove. Maybe if he wanted to Defend his title 1 or 2 times that would have been nice. A Tyson Jones Jr fight was spoke of but never happened. i being both of their fans would have loved to see that. Retiring would have been a good choice but hind site is 20/20 sir. I being selfish and wanting Jones to answer all the critics wanted him to go back down to LHW and regain his title. Looking back on his career now and after he got humbled it is easy to question that decision. But being a fighter and all your life being a fighter it is hard to walk away from the sport....Lefty
calzaghe 50-0
don't matter if he does this, the doubters will still say dawson was overated, or b'hop is to old or all the other excuses not to recognise he is the best fighter of his era. he may slap but they all say it hurts on the recieving end. and it don't matter if he does if you cant hurt him, the knock downs seem to switch him on and his pain receptors off. so the single big punches mean nothing. 1000 slaps beat 1 meaningless bomb.
so joe retire. the real boxing fans know how it is
by the way i didn,t enjoy the fight as i'm a massive jones jr fan and he should have done what joe should do and retire at the top. the ruiz fight should have been the last :firedevil
:nono:now larry be diplomatic bro.
I will be diplomatic about it. If he fought 4 more times and he fought a rematch against B Hop next and won that comvinceingly, fought say Dawson and won that, fought a rematch with Kessler and won that I would be amazed it really wouldn't matter who he fought inhis last fight. To me that should be a peter manfredo type fight in front of his home crowd and a farewell bout. if he can win the three fights mentioned prior. I tell you the truth he probably will fight again and I wouldn't be surprised if he gave Roy a rematch if that is what Roy really wants....Lefty
Cannot believe that some would still be unimpressed...
Would any real boxing fan be unimpressed by any professional boxer, regardless of age, race, nationality or boxing style, who reaches 50-0 (or 46-0 for that matter) and who has successfully defended a world title 21 times and has been the Ring Champion at 2 weights...
I mean, are we for real here...
Just heard an interview with Steve Collins there on the radio and he said that winning a world title is hard but holding onto it is much much harder, particularly in terms of your single mindedness and ability to remain focused and hungry for so long...
good post.....
but in reality joe LOST 2 Hopkins...! plus is scared 2 give him a rematch cuz he knows how B-Hop made him look & he aint no old roy jones...Wrong, in your opinion he lost, in REALITY he won by SD and thats backed up by the record books.
Opinions are not fact!
Aaah...Brian Nielsen AKA The Danish Pastry....what a guy hehe.. He's what got me interested in boxing. He'd stand there taking punches and when the other guy got tired he knocked him out...hehe all good fun.
Cannot believe that some would still be unimpressed...
Would any real boxing fan be unimpressed by any professional boxer, regardless of age, race, nationality or boxing style, who reaches 50-0 (or 46-0 for that matter) and who has successfully defended a world title 21 times and has been the Ring Champion at 2 weights...
I mean, are we for real here...
Just heard an interview with Steve Collins there on the radio and he said that winning a world title is hard but holding onto it is much much harder, particularly in terms of your single mindedness and ability to remain focused and hungry for so long...
Brian Nielsen was the greatest Danish fighter ever, he beat Larry Holmes, Tim Witherspoon, Tony Tubbs, Jeremy Williams, Orlin Norris and Peter McNeeley.
Battling Nelson was a bum with 32 losses! His wins were over nobodies like Joe Gans, Terry McGovern, Jimmy Britt, Young Corbett II and Aurelio Herrera.
Don't let BatTheMan see this.
lol.....................
No offence but why should JC try to prove himself when he beaten everyone in his division then moved up and beaten 2 ATG on their own soil? He's past his prime yet still looks better than anyone else between 168 and 175. He should retire.
Brian Nielsen was the greatest Danish fighter ever, he beat Larry Holmes, Tim Witherspoon, Tony Tubbs, Jeremy Williams, Orlin Norris and Peter McNeeley.
Battling Nelson was a bum with 32 losses! His wins were over nobodies like Joe Gans, Terry McGovern, Jimmy Britt, Young Corbett II and Aurelio Herrera.
Don't let BatTheMan see this.
joe calzaghe has just signed to fight reggie johnson! go reggie!
Not possible since Reggie Johnson might end up spending the rest of his life in jail, unfortunately. Maybe they'll fight in prison.
Don't count out old Reggie, he is coming off a win over JC Gonzales.
Melly,
To be completely honest with you, I wouldn't be terribly impressed for the simple fact that it took this guy this damn long to come over here and expose himself to the American audience. I'm not sold on him and quite frankly, I never will be. However, this doesnt mean I don't respect his wins over BHop and Jones. BHop because he showed against Pavlik that he has A LOT left and I respect his win over Jones because it was fair and square. I just don't like how it seems he waited for them to be past it to take a shot at them.
That's just me though man, I completely understand how he can have a large following.
Have you ever wondered if it's actually the other way round, as in Roy and Bernard waited until they needed the money and Joe lost his edge?
You'll probably find a way to disagree, but the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight which Bernard walked out on back in 2002 is well documented.
If you also remember, in post-fight interviews stretching back 6 or 7 years, Joe Calzaghe often spoke of a Hopkins fight, saying "it's my ultimate fight".
Considering this, I'd think twice before assuming it was all one way traffic, with Joe avoiding the likes of Hopkins and Jones.
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