PRIME Hopkins would UD Calzaghe he would pick holes in Calzaghe defence and paint his face with right hand counter punches ironically enough Calzaghe has been capatalising on the old age of Jones,Hopkins because of their age but Hopkins in his prime is one of the best conditioned fighters ive ever seen the intensity he could stustain was unreal Hopkins was a 15 round fighter in his prime
i hear Ricky say Hopkins was not as slick in his prime,a question for you then Ricky when have you seen Hopkins take a solid shot post Mercado 1,2 ?thats right you dont have an answer cause he does not take solid shots and never really has post Mercado 1,2 where he changed his style and become more patient defensive etc,by contrast Calzaghe has been hit solidly by Eubank,Reid,Jones,Hopkins,Kessler,Mitchell and guess what mostly by the right hand and whats Hopkins best punch ?the right hand and even more so against Southpaws all the Southpaws he has fought he landed his right hands over and over again
Hopkins was also an underrated puncher to especially with that laser like right hand and left hooks to the body he is also very good inside and very dirty but the thing is he frustrates oponents with that dirty infighting and he gets them outta their game plan its not always pretty IE Keith Holmes but its effective
Hopkins is to smart for the wide open Calzaghe and a Hopkins that can work at the pace Nard used to be able to would beat Calzaghe by UD imo
Why dont you check the fav fighter thread.
I have become a Calzaghe fan great fighter. I still find it moronic when people say this fighter beats this fighter prime fact!
ITS DUMB.
bullshit you are a Calzaghe nuthugger using an ALT account
are you retarded or cant you read i never said it was FACT and i stated this in my last post hence the reason i asked if you are are you retarded or cant you read
My fav fighter of all time is Bernard you moron.
I look at things objectively and tend not to be so naive both fighters have assets. Its a tough one to call but this Hopkins beats Joe prime FACt is garbage.
Maybe because you have Tito as you avatar you are trying to make hopkins out to be prime when he fought him yet old when he fought Calzaghe when honestly he just beat Pavlik who was undefeated, undisputed, 17yrs younger and heavy favorite.
Your arguments are poor.
cough Bullshit
i never said it was fact so what are you talking about MORON
Bernard Hopkins beats Calzaghe all ends up except for when he is struggling to keep pace at the age of 40+
Prime should have no age restriction and nothing is normal about Hopkins. Bernard is on his best streak Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik all above 160.
as for the tool that said how can you be peak at 43yo? what about Randy Couture at 45yo or Tyson at 20yo.
Age is a number
:lol1: :lol1:
when Calzaghe fans are making excuses there is only 3,4 years difference in age between Roy and Joe
you guys are a joke Bernard by CLEAR UD
i Disagree I Think His Best Performance Was Not Letting Pavlik Win One Second Of Any Round.
Remember Tito Went To Get Pimp Slapped By Winky Wright.
bernards Best Wins And Finest Streak Is Post 40yo. Whilst He Isnt At His Physical Peak In Boxing Terms He Is.
And That Is Exactly Why It Was Not A Prime Hopkins Because To Be Prime You Have To Find The Medium Between His Physcial Prime And His Boxing Prime And A 40 Year Old B Hop Was Not It Otherwise He Would Not Have Lost To Taylor Or Fought The Way He Did Against Eastman
How many posts/threads do you have to make about this, I like speculating as much as the next person but it never happened and never will. you don't actually know what would happen in a fight in there primes.
Pavlik was a favourable match-up for Hopkins.
I still think Hopkins ran out of gas a little bit at the end but Pavlik was too confused to take advantage at that point.
Joe doesn't let his opponent get a moment's rest, even if he is being outboxed for a bit. He has a trendemous will to win and a ton of experience at this point.
I disagree i think his best performance was not letting Pavlik win one second of any round.
Remember Tito went to get pimp slapped by Winky Wright.
Bernards best wins and finest streak is post 40yo. whilst he isnt at his physical peak in boxing terms he is.
like i said
how can Hopkins have been at his peak after Jermain Taylor fights when he was losing fights to Jermain Taylor cause he did have the stamina to throw enough punches to win the fight cause of his age
your prime should not restrict you from winning fights cause you get tired and that is why Hopkins prime was around 2001
that is commonsense
how can Hopkins have been at his peak after Jermain Taylor fights when he was losing fights to Jermain Taylor cause he does have the stamina to throw enough punches to win the fight cause of his age
your prime should not restrict you from winning fights cause you get tired and that is why Hopkins prime was around 2001
that is commonsense
Hopkins prime was from 1997 to 2003.
No fighter can be in their prime at 43 years old :lol1:
how can Hopkins have been at his peak after Jermain Taylor fights when he was losing fights to Jermain Taylor cause he did have the stamina to throw enough punches to win the fight cause of his age
your prime should not restrict you from winning fights cause you get tired and that is why Hopkins prime was around 2001
that is commonsense
Hopkins was at his best beating Pavlik. A young hungry guy his size.
Listen i love Bernard and his best win is Pavlik not Tito Tito lost to every big elite guy he fought.
his best win is not Pavlik,Pavlik is a chump that i would of picked Bernard to stop in his PRIME and school even worse the he did but the only reason i did'nt is because of his bad stamina he showed against Calzaghe,Winky
who cares who is his best win is anyway he was at his peak when he beat Tito not when he beat Pavlik
Atleast you gave your reasons unlike most.
I also believe the Hopkins who fought Trinidad would beat Calzaghe. It would've been a great fight as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAUA3eYyPw
thanks Machine
allthough i admit to being a Calzaghe hater im trying not to let my Calzaghe hate cloud my judgement of a fight between Calzaghe and Hopkins
its diffiicult but :lol1:
i honestly dont see how Calzaghe would beat Hopkins in his prime i think Calzaghe is tailor made for him to decision he is to open and Hopkins is too smart and accurate and very successful against Southpaw fighters and Calzaghe has been hit throughout his career by Hopkins best punch and was even down by it when they fought each other
Hopkins poor stamina was the intangible when they fought and that is not a factor in his prime
Stop making stupid posts for the sake of it.
Hopkins WOULD OF done this, Hopkins WOULD OF done that.
Jones WOULD OF done this, Jones WOULD OF done that.
Basically this is the deal. You don't like what actually happened, so you are using your imagination for what you would of LIKED to happen.
There should be a word for that, I don't think there is and if there is I don't know it.
this is very true
but i have to use my imagination cause you Calzaghe hid out in Wales and fought bums untill Jones,Hopkins got old and he could capatalise on their lack of stamina due to their age
Stop making stupid posts for the sake of it.
Hopkins WOULD OF done this, Hopkins WOULD OF done that.
Jones WOULD OF done this, Jones WOULD OF done that.
Basically this is the deal. You don't like what actually happened, so you are using your imagination for what you would of LIKED to happen.
There should be a word for that, I don't think there is and if there is I don't know it.
LMAO!
Who the hell are you to tell somebody what to post on a message board?:pat:
Atleast you gave your reasons unlike most.
I also believe the Hopkins who fought Trinidad would beat Calzaghe. It would've been a great fight as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAUA3eYyPw
You still cant change the fact that Tito was the favorite in the fight and many people picked Tito to beat Hopkins...Who gives if a fuck if he was welterweight or not...He filled out into the Middleweight division just fine...Its only became a problem when Hopkins beat Tito's ass people want to bitch about him being a WW!
Him KO'ing Joppy is something given that Hopkins couldnt even do it... so stop acting like Hopkins win over Tito was not any good...Most consider Hopkins win over Tito his best win. (whick I agree with)
Trinidad would of probably Ko'ed Holmes aswell imo so
You post that Tito is Hopkins best win, yet you call me stupid?
Tito was a welterweight, not a middleweight. I don't give a **** if he KO'd William Joppy, cos the guy is hardly an ATG now is he?
Hopkins beat Tarver, which nobody thought he could do.
He then beat Pavlik more recently, which nobody thought he could do.
They are, by far, his two biggest wins, meaning that he was at his best at this time.
If that doesn't agree with your nonsensical opinion then I'm sorry, but you always were an idiot and a shit poster anyway, I don't know why I expected anything to have changed.
You still cant change the fact that Tito was the favorite in the fight and many people picked Tito to beat Hopkins...Who gives if a fuck if he was welterweight or not...He filled out into the Middleweight division just fine...Its only became a problem when Hopkins beat Tito's ass people want to bitch about him being a WW!
Him KO'ing Joppy is something given that Hopkins couldnt even do it... so stop acting like Hopkins win over Tito was not any good...Most consider Hopkins win over Tito his best win. (whick I agree with)
You post that Tito is Hopkins best win, yet you call me stupid?
Tito was a welterweight, not a middleweight. I don't give a **** if he KO'd William Joppy, cos the guy is hardly an ATG now is he?
Hopkins beat Tarver, which nobody thought he could do.
He then beat Pavlik more recently, which nobody thought he could do.
They are, by far, his two biggest wins, meaning that he was at his best at this time.
If that doesn't agree with your nonsensical opinion then I'm sorry, but you always were an idiot and a shit poster anyway, I don't know why I expected anything to have changed.
NO Tito was a boiled down LMW struggling to make WW,a guy who demolished Joppy a natural MW
the reason they thought he would not beat Tarver is not because Tarver was a better fighter it was due to Hopkins age
he beat Pavlik cause he did not have to work at a hard pace if he had not had to work at a hard pace against Calzaghe he would of beaten him too
Hopkins biggest wins dont go hand in hand with him in his prime IMO because Trinidad was a peak Hopkins a guy that could not be outworked cause he still had good stamina then