Is Calzaghe an atg? If so where is he ranked?

Somewhere between 30 and 50, probably closer to 50 though

Since when is Calzaghe good enough to be in the top 50 of all time? hes that much of a talent? The victory over 40yr old, 3-3 in his last six fights Roy seals it. Honestly, I can probably think of 20 fighters off the top of my head better. Gimme an hour and it'll jump to 75.

I'd put him around 45-55 mark (just to be difficult :P ) Altho If he were to rematch B-Hop and beat him again and then beat Dawson that would push him into the early 20's IMO What a ridiculous jump, 20 places for beating the same guy again. Good god. These are the kind of ridiculous things some people think are accurate on things like thing, so there's no chance for any consensus. I tend to go with Battheman on polls like this. It's very difficult to really know where would be roughly right for all time, considering how many decades back your talking about. People listing specific numbers seems odd to me, because it suggests they've actually worked out the say 54 people in-front of said person. I doubt they have, and I'm realistic about the fact I couldn't so abstain from voting so accurately, or confidently for those reasons. I respect more someone being realistic with just how truly difficult to rank ATG over scores of years. I sense I'd place him above 50, not higher then 20. That's a wide bracket that's realistic not just shouting a number, and without really sitting down going through scores of fighters in detail in an endless debate, it would be tricky to even narrow down to a bracket of ten. It took Glenn Mcrory, Frank Warren and an old respected boxing journalist from the Guardian I think it was, an hour long program to decide the top 10 British guys ever, and even they couldn't agree. As for all fighters from around the world from all time with hundreds of people, you have a recipe for disaster.

Since when is Calzaghe good enough to be in the top 50 of all time? hes that much of a talent?

i voted 50, but after thinking about it maybe id say top 75 with him somewhere around the 60 mark lol:confused:

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top 50 sounds about right i think? maybe 75... i've never even attempted to make a list though so maybe it's a bit off

People actually have the guy in their top 10s and 20s? If I tried to rank him that highly I think I would puke.

Its a tough one isn't it. I think that saying Calzaghe is a top 30 boxer of all time are wide of the mark. There have been so many trully great boxers over the years that Calzaghe's achievements, although amazing, are just not as good as names like Greb, Armstrong, Leonard and Duran. If I ever got round to doing a top 100 of all time then I would envisage Calzaghe coming somewhere around the 80 mark. Here is the thing though, off the top of your head naming 4 fighters who accomplishments are greater than Calzaghes is pretty easy. Naming another 26 with not a single one among them that are questionable is not so easy.

Its a tough one isn't it. I think that saying Calzaghe is a top 30 boxer of all time are wide of the mark. There have been so many trully great boxers over the years that Calzaghe's achievements, although amazing, are just not as good as names like Greb, Armstrong, Leonard and Duran. If I ever got round to doing a top 100 of all time then I would envisage Calzaghe coming somewhere around the 80 mark.

Has anyone noticed that TheMachine never votes seriously in a poll? More deciet from this asshole I guess.

Surely an all time great merely means someone who would be a great in their weight division if they were around during any time in the history of the sport. Joe Calzaghe would give anyone who was ever in or around his division a tough time. i can agree with much of that.

Surely an all time great merely means someone who would be a great in their weight division if they were around during any time in the history of the sport. Joe Calzaghe would give anyone who was ever in or around his division a tough time. That seems about right. However is it 12 rounds or 15? Maybe 45 or to the finish? In any case it's a near impossible feat to rank fighters p4p over several eras.

Is there such a thing as a top 100 all time great? I reserve the term for fighters such as Willie Pep, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Harry Greb, Roberto Duran, the best of the best, but a case could be made for Joe if you aren't as strict about using the term. Surely an all time great merely means someone who would be a great in their weight division if they were around during any time in the history of the sport. Joe Calzaghe would give anyone who was ever in or around his division a tough time.

Number 1, baby. thanks for your input bob!

Number 1, baby.

Top 50....................

top 20......

For me he's an ATG. It's however extremely difficult to rate different eras and different weightdivisions. So I'll just say that he's a great fighter for me.