Would you rather have the .......

I would go for the Hopkins scenario. mostly because he seems much more healthy at this stage than Roy, especially considering his age. so he would be in better shape for his life after boxing, which would be a very important thing to me. plus, Hopkins even as an old man aint gettin dominated or beat up. gotta be pretty proud of that. a part of me would want the Roy scenario, but honestly, youre never gonna be considered the best fighter of all time nowadays, no matter what you do. Ray Robinson is probebly going to always be considered the p4p best ever. but being the best ever old fighter? now thats something that people could really remember you by. everything you said was on point but changing subjects for a sec ya boy tony the tiger will be in a world of trouble against toney on dec. 13th.......trust me and toney will be champ in 09.

everything you said was on point but changing subjects for a sec ya boy tony the tiger will be in a world of trouble against toney on dec. 13th.......trust me and toney will be champ in 09.

hopkins. roy jones is the goat, but still i prefer to be competitive for a longer time.

Hey Hyperion how many points to make me a sig? or if you could just tell me how to get mine to show up big on my sig....thanks bump......

easy, roy, just retire earlier......and be remembered like 10x the fighter hopkins is.... Shoulda, woulda, coulda........ Bernard is having the last laugh now, and has been ever since he slayed Tarver and Jones was slayed by the guy Hopkins TKO'd 10 years ago with Johnson. I'd go with Bernard's durability. Roy was amazing in his prime, and certainly more gifted than 'Nard. If he retired after the Ruiz fight he would've been looked upon much better than he is now, and certainly years above Hopkins. But what Hopkins is doing is no cakewalk either. How many fighters do you know who could beat Tarver, Winky, lose a close SD to Calzaghe, and beat Pavlik all beyond the age of 40? In the hallowed halls that Roy is in his place in history, he has few contemporaries. Same goes for Bernard. I guess it's just which style you prefer.

easy, roy, just retire earlier......and be remembered like 10x the fighter hopkins is.... Hey Hyperion how many points to make me a sig? or if you could just tell me how to get mine to show up big on my sig....thanks

easy, roy, just retire earlier......and be remembered like 10x the fighter hopkins is....

Thats a great question. I voted RJJ. Hopkins does have the longevity and probably the better resume now but was the most physically gifted fighter, possibly ever. So while Hopkins has never clearly lost and is still one of the best fighting Roy was in a class of his own in his prime, he just didn't accomplish all that he could have. Imagine how he would be seen had he given Hopkins the rematch at 50/50 and won.

Good thread, you and I think alike. I just made a thread about this saying how Hopkins to me is OVERALL a better fighter then RJJ, looking at their entire careers from 1990 to 2008. One guy had super human ablities but only lasted for so long while the other guy was just more disciplined and consistant and a studen of the game and remains competitive into his 44th birthday.

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honestly i'd rather have jones' athletic ability and I'd have retired after the Ruiz fight. that seems to be when alot are saying roy should have retired.

gifts and skill of a prime roy, but start to noticeably fade in your mid 30's? or the skill, and mind of bernard, and be able to still be great well into your 40's? honestly i'd rather have jones' athletic ability and I'd have retired after the Ruiz fight.

I would go for the Hopkins scenario. mostly because he seems much more healthy at this stage than Roy, especially considering his age. so he would be in better shape for his life after boxing, which would be a very important thing to me. plus, Hopkins even as an old man aint gettin dominated or beat up. gotta be pretty proud of that. a part of me would want the Roy scenario, but honestly, youre never gonna be considered the best fighter of all time nowadays, no matter what you do. Ray Robinson is probebly going to always be considered the p4p best ever. but being the best ever old fighter? now thats something that people could really remember you by.

I'd go with Roy but retire after beating John Ruiz. fair enough my friend.

Definately roy,Roy was GREAT,do not doubt that or argue,because he was the best of his time,IMO. His class and agility,and power behind those punches are very notable!!!He knows how to throw a punch,you dont have to be a big beast with oversized muscles to hit hard like RJJ.

I'd go with Roy but retire after beating John Ruiz.

both would put you ingreatness, Roy mishandled his in his previous decisions.