Serious question Yanks

That wasnt the question, Joe had the opportunity to fight a legend all be it a shot one (although i do seem to remember the usa fans saying Bhop was shot after Calzaghe beat him) Now seriously, this is not aimed at trying to take a dig at USA fans but what would it take to earn American respect? Is there anything Calzaghe can do? I d say he has respect. But if he acted a little more humble in front of the cameras he might also get some love. I can't help it my man I look at him sitting there smiling and I just think to myself boy I wish someone would wipe that stupid look off his face. He fought an old Jones who many here on this forum thought was going to win just take a look at this link http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220177 So beating Jones wasn't as easy as it looked or people didn't think it was going to be easy including me my man....Lefty :firedevil

You know what?! I think that most real american boxing fans respect joe as a great figter just not an all-time great. To me I see a lot of people who are just upset that he is making a name for himself by beating guys that are way past there prime and that are much higher than he on the ATG list. I hate to see Joe's people make a case for him being better all-time than Roy or Bernard. and let's be clear..Joe didnt want any parts of that ass-whipping 5 years ago. And it is not like he could not have come over to make that fight. 5 years ago he was screaming that he is a champion and why should he have to come to america which sounds foolish to even speak of given all that we know about hierarchy and drawing power of making big fights. But still..Joe is a great fighter. I thought that Roy was actually a little faster that him in the fight which gives you some idea of what a fight with them would have been like in 2000, but roy just look too timid to put together combos and looked like his power was all gone. I am actually upset with Roy for taking the fight becaseu he had to know that with the way he fought that he couldnt win. Which I can only conclude from that, that the whole fight was about the money.

there were two times that Joe buckled last nite: the first round against roy and the post fight interview when Kellerman uttered the words 'chad dawson' i highly doubt that he wants ANY piece of someone in their prime, let alone a hungry bad-ass so the only thing to earn my respect is for him to retire Mikkel Kessler :) was in his prime, hungry, fast, was gonna ko Calzaghe remember. let chad dawson make a career fighting the guys of his era

Tell Joe to hop in and go back to around the year 2000 and fight Roy Jones Jr. http://www.yourprops.com/norm-447a04d099eed-Back+To+The+Future+2.jpeg Joe just got back from 2000, Roy wasn't interested. Neither was Hopkins.

Only thing he could do is get an american passport to get respect in america. Idiots talked up Pavlik cause he was one fo their own when it was obvious he was a 1 trick plodder. Calzaghe will never get respect.

When Calzaghe beats Dawson everyone will say that Calzaghe slapped his way to the win, that Dawson isn't experienced enough, that Calzaghe needs Wales to beat Dawson and all sort of shit, that Dawson is overated etc. Calzaghe doesn't need this, Dawson doesn't need this. No one does. who else is calz gonna fight at 175??? WHO ELSE IS THERE??? CLINTON WOODS??? if he isn't fighting dawson, bhop, and i'll throw in glen johnson just bcuz... who is he gonna fight????!!!

What would it take for Calzaghe to earn American respect? Would victorys over either Pavlik or Dawson be that special or would it just be dismissed as he only beat young hopefuls? Calzaghe couldnt get big fights when Jones was in his prime thats a fact, i dont buy the ''he's dodged the big fights'' because he hasnt, he probably wasnt famous enough to fight Jones or Bhop years ago. So what could Joe do in the future to earn your respect? atleast 2 more fights: Dawson and the Bhop rematch... if Joe really really really wanted to impress... he'd go for the 50 wins undefeated record!!!

What would it take for Calzaghe to earn American respect? Would victorys over either Pavlik or Dawson be that special or would it just be dismissed as he only beat young hopefuls? Calzaghe couldnt get big fights when Jones was in his prime thats a fact, i dont buy the ''he's dodged the big fights'' because he hasnt, he probably wasnt famous enough to fight Jones or Bhop years ago. So what could Joe do in the future to earn your respect? the clinic he put on Jones last night..got my respect

When Calzaghe beats Dawson everyone will say that Calzaghe slapped his way to the win, that Dawson isn't experienced enough, that Calzaghe needs Wales to beat Dawson and all sort of shit, that Dawson is overated etc. Calzaghe doesn't need this, Dawson doesn't need this. No one does.

What would it take for Calzaghe to earn American respect? Would victorys over either Pavlik or Dawson be that special or would it just be dismissed as he only beat young hopefuls? Calzaghe couldnt get big fights when Jones was in his prime thats a fact, i dont buy the ''he's dodged the big fights'' because he hasnt, he probably wasnt famous enough to fight Jones or Bhop years ago. So what could Joe do in the future to earn your respect? Fight and beat Chad Dawson. He does that, I'll never critique Calzaghe again. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

he doesent need no chad dawson. Dnt 4get joe is past his best. the left hand is that bad he has to box around it and not use as mutch power as he could.

What would it take for Calzaghe to earn American respect? Would victorys over either Pavlik or Dawson be that special or would it just be dismissed as he only beat young hopefuls? Calzaghe couldnt get big fights when Jones was in his prime thats a fact, i dont buy the ''he's dodged the big fights'' because he hasnt, he probably wasnt famous enough to fight Jones or Bhop years ago. So what could Joe do in the future to earn your respect? In all Honesty if he beats Chad Dawson I would be super impressed and would give him his props and post a thread saying he's an ATG. No joke.

To answer the thread question I would respect JOE if he beats Dawson.. But we all know that this won't happen

Nothing. He'll annihialate Dawson and the critics will call Dawson 'young and inexperienced', and make some sort of excuse like they do with Kessler and Lacy. Face the facts, us Americans can't give credit where it's due because we're so bogged down with our own ideologies and beliefs that we're the shit and we're the bomb at everything, that we can't admit it when a Brit is good. Seems accurate

Nothing. He'll annihialate Dawson and the critics will call Dawson 'young and inexperienced', and make some sort of excuse like they do with Kessler and Lacy. Face the facts, us Americans can't give credit where it's due because we're so bogged down with our own ideologies and beliefs that we're the shit and we're the bomb at everything, that we can't admit it when a Brit is good.you da bomb and shit at everything ok that didnt come out right you da shit and bomb at everything ok not that either you bomb the shit and everything ok i give up :pat:

Nothing. He'll annihialate Dawson and the critics will call Dawson 'young and inexperienced', and make some sort of excuse like they do with Kessler and Lacy. Face the facts, us Americans can't give credit where it's due because we're so bogged down with our own ideologies and beliefs that we're the shit and we're the bomb at everything, that we can't admit it when a Brit is good.

calzaghe will never ever fight a threat in chad dawson. if a shot ass hopkins and jones could hurt calzaghe i dread to think what a young fighter would do to him. joe retire for your own health. Like Lacy...or Kessler? Cos in fairness, people arent even sure whether Dawson would beat Kessler, but we KNOW that Calzaghe did. Comfortably.

all this shit about chad dawson was the same shit they were saying about kessler. they said he wouldnt fight the undefeated fighter whi is 7-yrs younger. they said kessler was too fast, too powerful, just too hungry. he got calzaghowned but of course chad dawson is from the USA so hes the next Iron Jeff Lacy... sorry, ironed Mike Tyson

he wont get it. resume says it all. he is not getting it now because when he fought certain fighters. and he wouldnt of got it then becuz he would of got spanked. truth. sorry.

Or perhaps go back to the year 2000 and tell Jones to fight Calzaghe instead of his usual bums... Yes, because we all know Joe was fighting Elite Fighters and trying to move up in weight and get a title shot with Jones. :pat: Light-Heavyweights are still dangerous. Remember, Jones started at middle-weight. How many times have we seen throughout history a good fighter move up one division only to be beat by a decent opponent in the next/bigger weight class And again, How come Joe didn't come to the States again? Ruiz would have beaten Joe and everybody else he fought. Yes, John Ruiz. Although that was 2003. Just looked it up; this is who Roy fought: Roy{2000} David Telesco Richard Hall Eric Harding ......................... Joe C. {2000} David Starie Omar Sheika Richie Woodhall