Arthur Abraham's nationality: Armenian or German

Well he's armenian as well for me TBH. But since he has the dual citizenship it's kinda up to himself isn't it? well... i personally know his choice very well my friend. his first language is Armenian, and his true home will always be Armenia.

looking at the votes... im very glad most people here know very well the difference between being a citizen and representative of one country, yet staying true to your roots and the motherland you were born in. Well he's armenian as well for me TBH. But since he has the dual citizenship it's kinda up to himself isn't it?

looking at the votes... im very glad most people here know very well the difference between being a citizen and representative of one country, yet staying true to your roots and the motherland you were born in.

personally i was born in canada and consider myself canadian. my parents were born in ecuador and are now canadian citizens, there not even dual citizens there canadian. i myself consider themselves ecuadorian. as i consider AA to be Armenian . . . i cant really see any other way of looking at it logically. that shouldnt mean AA doesnt love germany etc . . .

Let's put it this way, if a person recieves his citizenship coming from Mexico, he is still Mexican just now with an American citizenship. I don't see what the debate is here really.

In my opinion he is Armenian, his blood is armenian, he's born there, what else do you want? You don't chance your race by signing a paper. I'm german by the way.

The discussion sounds rather strange to me :-/ Can't we agree that he's both Armenian and German as he has both citizenships?

He is Armenian lol you think this is a german name? Avetik Abrahamyan The point is he calls himself Arthur Abraham. Obviously he's ashamed of his Armenian descent, and money is more important to him than Armenia. He tries to cover up his roots to make money. He's neither German or Armenian, because he's loyal to nothing, other than money.

I have to say Arthur Abraham is Armenian to me, He pratically works in germany so he had to embrace germany like its part of him.. Its like being born and raise in Manchester but you went to london to look for work, work there and adopt the accent.

After he beats Sturm and then loses to Pavlik, will anyone really care? In spirit of the thread, where you are born, is what you are. I was born in America, I'm American. Even though I'm German, Irish, etc....

I still want to know IF i got owned? i wont be giving up this easy lol

that logic make no sense. The Soviets just occupied Armenia for decades and did nothing to realy change the mellinia of culture already established. I say he is Armenian,because genetically he can trace his ancestory there, was born there, was raised there. Hell my grandfather came from Greece...was born there and raised there. He came over at age 20....He is now 75 and ppl always refer to him as greek, even though he has dual citezenship and has been an american more the twice as long as he lived in Greece. Good point! Green K for you.

he has german citizenship. he fights in germany. he lives in germany. he changed his armenian name to arthur abraham. he's german. if you want to say he's armenian because of where he was born...... he was born in the U.S.S.R. change the options to German or Soviet. that logic make no sense. The Soviets just occupied Armenia for decades and did nothing to realy change the mellinia of culture already established. I say he is Armenian,because genetically he can trace his ancestory there, was born there, was raised there. Hell my grandfather came from Greece...was born there and raised there. He came over at age 20....He is now 75 and ppl always refer to him as greek, even though he has dual citezenship and has been an american more the twice as long as he lived in Greece.

:rofl: that cracked me up. hey man... you have a somewhat sound head on your shoulders... i suggest you stop holding hands with Melly-Mel who is a complete moron and is about to lose the .005% credibility he has when the mods here OWN him and tell him none of us are alts.

Well, it looks like you have your facts wrong. Soviet Union was not a nation, it was a Union, as suggested by the name. Armenia, has been a country for centuries, in fact, it's one of the oldest countries in history. During the time when Soviet Union ruled, it was no different. Armenia was a country that was part of the Soviet Union. the EU is also a Union, and several countries are part of it, does that make European a nationality? Just like the UNITED states of america. well i was kidding about arthur being german. he has to fight in germany to make money. i'm sure he has armenian pride and considers himself armenian. armenia is a country now and it had a glorious history in centuries past. it was just unfortunate that it was surrounded by larger , more powerful enemies. as far as the av and screenname...... you don't like patrick? :) So you are not american. You are Californian/Texan or whatever (I cannot remember tua sorry).

Wait how do you argue with someone on wikipedia?? Constant edit battles? LOL no they have a discussion section for each article, where you can argue your point. edit wars work just as well.

Wait how do you argue with someone on wikipedia?? Constant edit battles? LOL :peeright::gay::killyou:

Hey Melly Mel your getting on my nerves man. If I knew how to give you some of those red points id do it right now without hesitation. lol Googler he is the biggest douche on this forum, i had an arguement with him and that is all he can say, "you dickheads are alts", where the fuc is he now? I swear this is going to be the biggest ownage of ALL TIME on boxingscene when he finds out we are not alts? I am giving him shit anyway, i did not like this guy from day one!

Hey Melly Mel your getting on my nerves man. If I knew how to give you some of those red points id do it right now without hesitation. lol

hey mods, any results? do i have 15 usernames or one? lol