Now all through out boxing history there have been fighters that well lets just say didn't like one another. I can name a few pairs off the top of my head
Ali/Frazier
Lamotta/Robinson
Hagler/Hearns
Vargas/De La Hoya
Some have fought mor ethen once and others only needed one fight to show their opposition how much they really disliked them. I wonder If B HOp and RJJ fight a second time how much will the hatred part play out in their match up? I want peoples thoughts on this possible match up and on others they may have seen as grudge matches and other pairs of fighters who might have disliked eachother.
JCC and Greg Haugen...that kat talked so much shit...JCC had it in for him...I remember seing somewhere that he knew he had him beat...but didn't go in for the KO because he wanted to punish him some more...and punish him he did!!!:boxing:
Haugen said that JCC built up his record fighting Mexican cab drivers or something like that. After JCC beat the day lights out of him he was quited as saying "they must have been tough cab drivers".
Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler. Probably the most foulfilled trilogy in boxing history. Saddler was always a dirty fighter. Pep wasn't. But Saddler brought out the worst in him.
Tyson and Lewis talked some serious shit.
Tyson told him he wanted to rip out his heart and eat his children. Crazy fool.
It's made even crazier by the fact that Lewis didn't have any children at the time.
MAB and EM seriously hated each other. Shit was personal.
Yep. Same thing I was gonna say. That wasnt a show for the camera's, those two hated the site of each other.
Tyson and Lewis talked some serious shit.
Tyson told him he wanted to rip out his heart and eat his children. Crazy fool.
It's made even crazier by the fact that Lewis didn't have any children at the time.
Benn- Eubank.
Beginnings
Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank fought at middleweight and super middleweight around the same time (1985-1997), and became rivals on both the domestic and world boxing scene. Benn won his first 22 consecutive bouts by knockout, earning the moniker 'the Dark Destroyer'. Eubank was the cocky, flamboyant upstart who began calling out Benn after his tenth bout. The rivalry grew, with both men swearing that they would knock the other man out. The British public began to demand the fight to be made.
Benn, having lost to Michael Watson, began to rebuild in America, winning the WBO world middleweight title by knocking out Doug DeWitt. He then savaged Iran Barkley in one round in his first defence. Then he agreed to meet Chris Eubank with his title on the line, and the fight was set for 18th November 1990.
Benn v Eubank: WBO world middleweight championship
Disaster struck the Benn camp as Benn woke on the morning of the fight nearly 7lbs overweight. He managed to burn off the surplus weight with exhaustive work, but was left seriously dehydrated. The Benn entourage began plotting ways to demoralise Eubank and 'even things up'. They decided to sabotage his entrance music.
As Eubank made his strutting ring walk to the thumping sound of Tina Turner's 'Simply the Best' (his ring moniker), the record suddenly stopped. Eubank ingored this, and impassively made his way to the ring apron and vaulted the to rope as per usual. Benn entered the ring like a caged tiger, furiously shadow boxing and clearly exhilarated. The men posed in a scene that would be replayed countless times over the years on television, Eubanks gloves touching and baleful gaze, and Benn's expression of pure hatred and loathing. The bell rang to begin the fight.
Eubank ran out sideways before turning and striking Benn with a right cross, clearly hoping for a surprise (and somewhat unorthodox) knockout. Benn stalked the challenger at furious pace, and the opening rounds are remembered for their lack of jabs or range finding punches. Each punch was thrown with evil intent, and commentator Dave Brennar called the fight 'Grand Prix stuff so far'.
In the fourth round, Eubank took a ferocious right uppercut to the chin when breaking from a clinch. The blow caused him to bite his tongue, leaving a severe gash which led to copious amounts of blood being swallowed. Eubank hid this evidence from his corner, afraid of a doctor stoppage.
Even the commentators were getting carried away. Jim McDonald made no attempt at professionalism when exclaiming; "JESUS, look at that right hand!" Benn's eye was swollen shut by the fifth round, and in the sixth Eubank began throwing shots at Benn who was covering up on the ropes. Benn caught Eubank with a low blow, and with no points deducted used his advantage by pounding Eubank's body. Eubank fought back in the seventh, and with scores fairly even the fighters began the eighth round.
A more wary Benn now sought to catch Eubank with flashing overhand shots followed by short hooks. Eubank was trapped in the corner when an overhand right caught him on top of the head, and down he went. He was up quickly, claiming it was a slip, but took the eight count regardless from Richard Steele. Eubank finished the round strongly and posed and preened between the rounds. The ninth was an even round until Eubank missed with a right and Benn caught him with a left hook which landed on the unbalanced Eubank's rear, sending him down. Standing up, Eubank circled Benn before releasing a left right combination, and a left hook which staggered Benn (Barry McGuigan; This is it! Its the end!"). Benn survived the flurry and clinched, but a straight right from Eubank sent him into a corner, and Steele stepped in to end the flurry with five seconds left of round nine, ending what he called; "The most dramatic fight I've ever refereed". The fight is still considered a classic to this day.
Eubank would defend his new title three times, relinquishing to contest the vacant WBO world super middleweight title against the ill-fated Michael Watson, who after winning eight of eleven rounds fell into a coma after a Eubank uppercut at the end of round 11, before the subsequent referee stoppage twenty seconds into round 12. This fight was as gruelling as Benn-Eubank 1, though all accolades were halted after the tragic end. Benn, who had also moved up to super middleweight, won the WBC world super-middleweight title in Italy, beating Mauro Galvano. With both men champions in the same weight division, a unification fight and three year anticipated rematch was arranged by Don King for October 9th 1993.
The Rematch: WBC champion v WBO champion
Over 42,000 crammed Old Trafford for one of the biggest boxing events ever staged. The bout was watched by half a billion people worldwide. Don King's contract stipulated that not only would the winner join his stable of fighters, but also the loser.
This time Eubank's ring walk went off without a hitch, commentator Reg Gutteridge making the classic call when Eubank performed his customary vault over the ropes into the ring, claiming; "The ego has landed". The fight itself did not quite reach the brutal heights of the first, as neither man was as badly hurt. However, there were flurries of punches at the ends of the rounds, with both boxers trying to claim the rounds knowing that there was more chance of the fight lasting the distance as the bout progressed. One such exchange saw Benn in a corner knocked through the ropes, though Eubank used his body as well and Benn was not badly hurt. The final round was thrilling, with both boxers told they needed it to win. Most boxing experts agree that this was a truly classic round, Gutteridge referring to the two 'magnificent warriors' at its climax.
The final scores were 115-113 Eubank, 114-113 Benn, and 114-114. The bout was declared a draw - Benn retained his WBC belt, Eubank his WBO championship. Astonishingly, Don King had not written the event of a draw into the contract, and as a result neither fighter was contractually bound to join him.
The pair never fought again, despite a £6 million bout at Wembley stadium being touted for Eubank's eight fight Sky deal. Benn faced Gerald McClellan, pound-for-pound one of the most devastating fighters of the 90's, and his career paralleled Eubank's when McClellan was paralysed as a result of this bout. Benn was finished mentally and almost physically after this violent war, and lost first his title then twice more to Steve Collins, who magnanimously claimed afterwards that Benn was the greatest British boxer ever, and wished he could have fought him at his prime.
Eubank too lost his title and unbeaten record, also to Collins by a split decision. He retired, and came out of retirement to face a young Joe Calzaghe, who beat him on points. He fought for the WBO world cruiserweight title, losing another split decision to Carl Thompson, and the rematch when, ahead on points, the doctor stopped the fight due to Eubank's swollen eye. This time, he retired for good.
Two legends of British boxing thus finished their careers, the highs and lows still vivid, and both defined the others careers. Britain, or boxing, may never see another rivalry like it.
Respected publication Boxing News recently contained a large feature on the rivalry, and an in-depth look at the occasions and fights. The sub-headline, which summed up the rivalry perfectly, read; "Glynn Evans on a magical time when two of Britain's opposites went to war in the ring and transfixed a nation". The article begins; "There can be few individual pairings across any sport to eclipse the rivalry Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank shared in the first half of the 1990s", and goes on to label the fights between the pair as "titanic clashes".
On the ITV documentary 'Best Ever Big Fight Live', former world champion Duke McKenzie said of the Benn/Eubank rivalry; "It may never be rivalled". Barry McGuigan agreed, saying; "There was real antipathy and ill-will there. But what fights, what fights." The legacy of the feud was summed up with the first fight being shown, and given the moniker; "A war to end all wars".
Thank you for the video sir. I have never seen the live footage to this gfight sir. he took a beating right there sir.
Ali Norton Norton broke Ali's jaw and tillthis day thinks he won all 3 fights
It was 6 times and the last time was in 51 when they had the massacare in the ring. The barrage of punches Robinson landed left LaMotta laying on the ropes bloddied and broken but still standing. the famous scene in The Ragging Bull where De niro says "you never got me down Ray, You never got me down"
P.S I only knew about the 6 fights because I just read up on it the other day after I watched the movie.
It was 6 times and the last time was in 51 when they had the massacare in the ring. The barrage of punches Robinson landed left LaMotta laying on the ropes bloddied and broken but still standing. the famous scene in The Ragging Bull where De niro says "you never got me down Ray, You never got me down"
P.S I only knew about the 6 fights because I just read up on it the other day after I watched the movie.
I know it was alot ! Great movie !
Carabajal vs Chiquita - first little guys to make a million
Lamotta vs Robinson - they fought 5 times gotta have some grudge in there
Zale vs Rocky - they 3 times
Nelson vs Leija - they fought 4 times
It was 6 times and the last time was in 51 when they had the massacare in the ring. The barrage of punches Robinson landed left LaMotta laying on the ropes bloddied and broken but still standing. the famous scene in The Ragging Bull where De niro says "you never got me down Ray, You never got me down"
P.S I only knew about the 6 fights because I just read up on it the other day after I watched the movie.
Carabajal vs Chiquita - first little guys to make a million
Lamotta vs Robinson - they fought 5 times gotta have some grudge in there
Zale vs Rocky - they 3 times
Nelson vs Leija - they fought 4 times
i think dlh vs mayorga was bs for selling the ppv
they kissed and hugged when the fight was over
I think the Ali theme was for selling the fight but somewhere along th eline Joe got pissed off at Ali for some of the things Ali said promotional motivated or not. Same can apply with Oscar and Mayorga the whole I can satisfy your wife have her get with a real man thing may have crossed the line. Oscar being the gentlemen he is and business man he is hugged and let it go after he beat the crap out of him.