Would Ivan Calderon go through Wladimir Klitschkos resume undefeated???

Oh, I forgot, Oscar wears lifts. In that case, yes they are the same size. What was I thinking. DUDE "THE ONLY REASON OSCAR WENT TO 154 IS BECAUSE HE WAS OLD" :rofl:

I am talking about Duran.. since it is a fair comparison. You say Mayweather is the smaller fighter because of his physical statistics. Well Duran was smaller then Mayweather and he fought on to super middleweight. So it has everything to do with what we are talking about since you are saying that's what keeps Floyd from being a legit welter and jr. middle. 5'7'' is bigger then 5'8" is what you are saying if we put your argument into perspective. in response to your hateful red k :haha: why do you keep bringing up duran faggot????? this is floyd and oscar being the same size. I never said anything about floyd not being able to go to middleweight because of his size lol you keep bringing up duran going up to weight but you don't mention he failed miserably and fought nobodies and still go stopped in more than one occasion at about 154. You're a fool you know nothing! Keep looking up boxrec fool since you don't know much. I still find it funny you said dlh went to 154 when he was old :haha: LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

yeah i think he's confused himself. I have put it to rest and agreed with him that floyd and oscar are the same size. Oh, I forgot, Oscar wears lifts. In that case, yes they are the same size. What was I thinking.

I'm confused now. yeah i think he's confused himself. I have put it to rest and agreed with him that floyd and oscar are the same size.

I am talking about Duran.. since it is a fair comparison. You say Mayweather is the smaller fighter because of his physical statistics. Well Duran was smaller then Mayweather and he fought on to super middleweight. So it has everything to do with what we are talking about since you are saying that's what keeps Floyd from being a legit welter and jr. middle. 5'7'' is bigger then 5'8" is what you are saying if we put your argument into perspective. I'm confused now.

who the FUCK is talking about duran :rofl: your reaching dude keep your arguments straight. btw oscar and floyd are not the same size :haha: I am talking about Duran.. since it is a fair comparison. You say Mayweather is the smaller fighter because of his physical statistics. Well Duran was smaller then Mayweather and he fought on to super middleweight. So it has everything to do with what we are talking about since you are saying that's what keeps Floyd from being a legit welter and jr. middle. 5'7'' is bigger then 5'8" is what you are saying if we put your argument into perspective.

Ivan Calderon IS however the same size as Oscar. That's why they spar together.

Can you please answer me one question then.. Who is bigger, Duran or Mayweather?? and those stats look to be almost about even. There isn't a GIANT difference. who the FUCK is talking about duran :rofl: your reaching dude keep your arguments straight. btw oscar and floyd are not the same size :haha:

let me repost: you don't understand my argument.. no Paul Williams isn't the same size as Floyd because they have fought at welterweight. No Pacman isn't the same size as Oscar. What matters is what division they started at and the division they have fought in. Y'all just trying to make strawman arguments to get out of the fact that you know I am right. That is why you wont answer the Duran question and why you are throwing irrelevant comparison out there. What divisions did Manny and Paul start in and fight at? What divisions did Oscar and Floyd start in and what divisions have they fought at? exactly... you sound like a 13 year old girl finishing every thing with "EXACTLY" but your the only one agreeing with yourself. Keep going though im kind of board right now.

Can someone read those stats and tell me who the bigger guy is since someone is ignoring them. thanks. Can you please answer me one question then.. Who is bigger, Duran or Mayweather?? and those stats look to be almost about even. There isn't a GIANT difference.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42868000/jpg/_42868567_oscar_floyd_tape_416.jpg :beerchug: Can someone read those stats and tell me who the bigger guy is since someone is ignoring them. thanks.

lets just put this retarded argument to rest and lets agree with sincity! This was pretty funny though. I don't think I have EVER heard anyone argue that floyd and oscar the same size..Geezus!!!! :nonono: let me repost: you don't understand my argument.. no Paul Williams isn't the same size as Floyd because they have fought at welterweight. No Pacman isn't the same size as Oscar. What matters is what division they started at and the division they have fought in. Y'all just trying to make strawman arguments to get out of the fact that you know I am right. That is why you wont answer the Duran question and why you are throwing irrelevant comparison out there. What divisions did Manny and Paul start in and fight at? What divisions did Oscar and Floyd start in and what divisions have they fought at? exactly...

Sin City: lol.. you don't even know me.. so please shut the **** up. thank you ------------ Guess I made him mad. He's not over Cotto getting smashed yet. Floyd and Oscar the same size? Hilarious. why would I be made of Cotto losing? It was a great fight and though I don't like a lot of Margarito fans I don't dislike Margarito. Then again.. I don't like a lot of Cotto fans either like BMWM3P. Again, cop outs and straw mans.. that's all you got cus you know I am right. And you are forming an opinion on me when you never even talked to me before, that's why I gave you bad k. Now if you had encountered me before that would be something different but you haven't.

no no oscar and pacman are the same size their fighting at 147...according to mr sin city aka i hate floyd..lol Sin City: lol.. you don't even know me.. so please shut the **** up. thank you ------------ Guess I made him mad. He's not over Cotto getting smashed yet. Floyd and Oscar the same size? Hilarious. and middleweight lets just put this retarded argument to rest and lets agree with sincity! This was pretty funny though. I don't think I have EVER heard anyone argue that floyd and oscar the same size..Geezus!!!! :nonono:

no no oscar and pacman are the same size their fighting at 147...according to mr sin city aka i hate floyd..lol you don't understand my argument.. no Paul Williams isn't the same size as Floyd because they have fought at welterweight. No Pacman isn't the same size as Oscar. What matters is what division they started at and the division they have fought in. Y'all just trying to make strawman arguments to get out of the fact that you know I am right. That is why you wont answer the Duran question and why you are throwing irrelevant comparison out there. What divisions did Manny and Paul start in and fight at? What divisions did Oscar and Floyd start in and what divisions have they fought at? exactly...

Floyd is about 2 inches shorter than Oscar. He's got a slightly smaller frame. His metabolism is better than Oscar's as Oscar seems the type to get fat if he does not work out. At thier best fighting shape I'd say they are seperated by ONE boxing weight class, with Oscar being the slightly bigger man. Not enough of a size difference to have an arguement about. Yes Oscar technically fought at Middle, but look at him against Sturm, he looked like a potato. Against Hopkins he weighed in at 150 something. He's definately not a Middleweight and he's over his absolute best fighting weight at 154lbs. I believe he fought at Jr Middle so long because he did not want to train hard enough to lose the weight, evident in him always gassing out in the late rounds. Welter is his best ideal weight. I'd say 140lbs is Mayweather's. So there's your one weight division.

btw the Paul Williams argument is bullshit because he has NEVER fought under welterweight and started fighting at middleweight and super middleweight. Oscar AND Floyd started in the same division and have fought in the same divisions other then jr. middle.

wtf..were talking about floyd and oscar..phuck duran he's reaching so bad right now lol. Floyd and oscar the same size is laughable, plus we all know oscar isn't in the mood of fighting people his own size now a days :haha:

I really don't feel the need to explain anything to you, it's obvious you hate floyd and for you to say dlh moved up to 154 when he was old shows how much you really know about what your talking about. You have a weak argument, which is based on boxrec lol. I guess pwill and floyd are the same size too since boxrec shows they both have fights at 147. :smashfrea again.. Roberto Duran was 5'7'' with a 66 reach and fought all the way up to Super Middleweight. But Floyd is too small for welterweight? :bottle: boo hoo

Roberto Duran was 5'7'' with a 66 inch reach... what do you say to that? wtf??? you really are an idiot. look at their measurements please thanks :kiss: