Some of you guys are really overreacting

I agree. Although it wasn't as bad as some (especially Farhood) are saying, there should definitely be a rematch. dude, the ref was way worse than most people are saying. He kept getting in the way of Andrade when Andrade started doing good, and then listen to his explanation for the end of the fight. "Andrade lost that fight, because he wouldnt go to the neutral corner! He would have knocked out Bute if it wasnt for that!" ...that is just SHIT. If he had any idea what he was talking about, he should have known that by the end of that 10 count, the fight clock would have been run out, and the fight would have ended. but he tries to blame it on Andrade? ****in idiot ref.

If I were the trainer Richard Grant I would've pulled a Norman Stone and snatch away the belt from Bute's handlers.

Good post. Yes, the ref did seem a bit influenced by the crowd, but he wasn't as bad as some people are making him out to be. He was WORSE. Lets not forget that BULLSHIT knockdown he awarded Bute on Andrade. Shit was ****ing disgusting.

You seem like Farhood - bitter because the European boxer won instead of the American. :lol1: I thought the referee wasn't as bad as some are saying. Andrade was trying to headbutt Bute every time he got the chance, and he could have been deducted points or even disqualified for that. I was impressed by Bute for 11 rounds until he was beaten up in round 12. The referee had no control over the fight. That much should be obvious, whether you think he was biased or not.

**** that. if meldrick taylor didn't get to win the JCC fight, Bute should not get this luxury. He got Knocked out. He was beaten in a fight by a tougher man. he lost. **** him! yea, this was a LOT like the JCC fight. I wish, wish both this fight and the JCC fight had been 15 rounds. neither of them would have been controversial, and we all know who would have won both.

I agree with you Irish, what happend to your other thread u made right after?? Here's my post from another thread. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- First off the ref was absolute shit, Bute was dead but showed huge balls and heart for getting up. He beat the count and won the decision. It was the right call since the time was over, this was not like Chavez vs Taylor where there was still a little time where Taylor could have taken a few more punches. My http://www.cpydersweb.com/catalog/my2cents.jpg

The referee was horrible and biased the whole night, whether it could have been stopped or not is debatable but the referee was horrible in the fight.

Andrades a bum with a steel chin, he didn't do shit against Bute at all until Bute ran out of gas. I thought Andrade improved his offense since Kessler, I guess I'm wrong because all he did was wait until Bute was gassed out until he attacked LMAO, Dude you're obviously BIASED as hell.. For 1. By you calling Andrade a bum you're discrediting Bute because Andrade was hitting Bute with alot of punches for a bum. I guess those body shots and punches to the face didn't contribute to Bute gassing out huh? Maybe it was all the holding that Bute did that gassed him out and sapped him of his energy?

LOL!!!!!!!PWNED!!!! More seriously, hell yeah! so your point is moot, irish... clearly this fight wasnt fair for Andrade, and I demand a rematch, because this fight might have been much different with a different ref. but the stoppage issue wasnt out of question.

The ref was biased and shit. lets get that out of the way. but I think a lot of you guys are too used to the quick-stoppage refs we have nowadays. if a nonbiased ref from the 70s was there tonight, he would have let Bute continue too, because he was clearly up before 10...just in terrible condition. Overall, I think Andrade probebly deserved to win that fight, because Bute was totally gone...but the final result isnt that bad. its one of those 'Bute won the boxing match, Andrade won the fight' kind of things. ...unless Bute never gives Andrade a rematch, then hes a coward. **** that. if meldrick taylor didn't get to win the JCC fight, Bute should not get this luxury. He got Knocked out. He was beaten in a fight by a tougher man. he lost. **** him!

Andrades a bum with a steel chin, he didn't do shit against Bute at all until Bute ran out of gas. I thought Andrade improved his offense since Kessler, I guess I'm wrong because all he did was wait until Bute was gassed out until he attacked yeah that bum just KO'ed the guy in your avatar.....:fu2:

The ref was biased and shit. lets get that out of the way. but I think a lot of you guys are too used to the quick-stoppage refs we have nowadays. if a nonbiased ref from the 70s was there tonight, he would have let Bute continue too, because he was clearly up before 10...just in terrible condition. Overall, I think Andrade probebly deserved to win that fight, because Bute was totally gone...but the final result isnt that bad. its one of those 'Bute won the boxing match, Andrade won the fight' kind of things. ...unless Bute never gives Andrade a rematch, then hes a coward. We needed the best ref in the world...Terry O'Connor...

I think a referee from the 70's would've let Andrade beat up on Bute rather than take unnecessary time-outs, break ups and other things that the referee tonight did. I agree with that, but on the stoppage issue only it wasnt that bad.

I think a referee from the 70's would've let Andrade beat up on Bute rather than take unnecessary time-outs, break ups and other things that the referee tonight did. LOL!!!!!!!PWNED!!!! More seriously, hell yeah! so your point is moot, irish...

It doesn't matter though. Bute fell into the ropes on his own, face first, about 10 seconds before the knockdown. The guy was OUT, it was actually dangerous for the ref to let him continue. The fight should have been stopped there's no way anyone can say otherwise. Yea Bute outclassed him for the majority of the fight....but he ended up standing up half-conscious.

The thing is with any other ref, there is a very good chance that Andrade wins the fight. It is hard for most of us to say... it is what it is and be ok with the outcome of the fight when it was clear to all of us that Bute was gone in lalala.

Andrades a bum with a steel chin, he didn't do shit against Bute at all until Bute ran out of gas. I thought Andrade improved his offense since Kessler, I guess I'm wrong because all he did was wait until Bute was gassed out until he attacked

I think a referee from the 70's would've let Andrade beat up on Bute rather than take unnecessary time-outs, break ups and other things that the referee tonight did.