I loved Naseem but...NO. HELL NO.
What was his biggest win again?
I love how people bring up how many times he defended his then-bogus WBO title...means sh*t. It's who you beat and when you do it.
Hamed doesn't qualify. Sadly, if he kept fighting, he might've.
He beat the WBO, WBA, WBC AND IBF Champs.
Yeah he did nothing.
The thing is the level of people who are getting in the HOF now is low so for me Naz gets in, Naz doesnt need to beat anyone who is a HOF to be in it, He didnt really have any big-name featherweight around him at the time.
He had to fight people who were moving up in Barrera.. unless you know a famous featherweight who could have made Naz's name better but who naz didnt fight???
If your reason for Hamed getting into the Hall of Fame is because the standard is low then fine. I don't want to continue that trend but fine.
Barrera is actually still fighting. And he found plenty of people to fight. So did Morales. Look at their resume's. Hamed didn't keep fighting - he hurt himself. End of story.
he's definitely HOFer.
for all those saying british HOF......those ain't no british titles he was holding. those were world titles from almost every org.
and he didn't whoop brits to get those belts.
you can't be serious... :smh:.
Barry McGuigan isn't on trial. Let's make a case for Hamed.
And I'm well aware of who he beat for the titles. They were all past it (Soto, Johnson, etc.). Those guys dont make you a Hall of Famer.
Listen, if picking up belts is what gets you in then lets induct William Joppy too. He's a three-time champ. But that's not the case - it's who you BEAT. And not surprisingly, you haven't mentioned who Hamed beat that deserves HOF mention.
The thing is the level of people who are getting in the HOF now is low so for me Naz gets in, Naz doesnt need to beat anyone who is a HOF to be in it, He didnt really have any big-name featherweight around him at the time.
He had to fight people who were moving up in Barrera.. unless you know a famous featherweight who could have made Naz's name better but who naz didnt fight???
Naz was the undisputed champ at 126, he did so by fighting all the beltholders at the time, They might not be big-nmaes like Morales/Barrera both who were at 122 at the time but he still beat the titleholder of the WBC,WBA and IBF belts.
If BARRY MaCGIUGAN could get in the HOF then Naz is a dead cert for it.
Barry McGuigan isn't on trial. Let's make a case for Hamed.
And I'm well aware of who he beat for the titles. They were all past it (Soto, Johnson, etc.). Those guys dont make you a Hall of Famer.
Listen, if picking up belts is what gets you in then lets induct William Joppy too. He's a three-time champ. But that's not the case - it's who you BEAT. And not surprisingly, you haven't mentioned who Hamed beat that deserves HOF mention.
Ray,
Forget other people. Tell me what Hamed did in the ring that warrants that.
I'm not knocking him - I loved him when he fought. And he is EXTREMELY underrated by many. Hamed was a brilliant fighter in his prime and could've been much more. But Hall of Fame? Nah.
Naz was the undisputed champ at 126, he did so by fighting all the beltholders at the time, They might not be big-nmaes like Morales/Barrera both who were at 122 at the time but he still beat the titleholder of the WBC,WBA and IBF belts.
If BARRY MaCGIUGAN could get in the HOF then Naz is a dead cert for it.
How about the fact that Barry McGuigan is in. Would you like to compare their records and accomplishments?
He should get in because someone else did?
LOL.
Can you make a better case for him than that? I sure hope so.
Feel free to back up your opinion with facts.
How about the fact that Barry McGuigan is in. Would you like to compare their records and accomplishments?
Have you seen the list of the Hall of famer lately??? Its full of human punching bags nowadays, So you telling me a guy who people like Morales,Barrera or pacman worship for bring money to the little guys doesnt deserve to be there???
Ray,
Forget other people. Tell me what Hamed did in the ring that warrants that.
I'm not knocking him - I loved him when he fought. And he is EXTREMELY underrated by many. Hamed was a brilliant fighter in his prime and could've been much more. But Hall of Fame? Nah.
I loved Naseem but...NO. HELL NO.
What was his biggest win again?
I love how people bring up how many times he defended his then-bogus WBO title...means sh*t. It's who you beat and when you do it.
Hamed doesn't qualify. Sadly, if he kept fighting, he might've.
Have you seen the list of the Hall of famer lately??? Its full of human punching bags nowadays, So you telling me a guy who people like Morales,Barrera or pacman worship for bring money to the little guys doesnt deserve to be there???
I loved Naseem but...NO. HELL NO.
What was his biggest win again?
I love how people bring up how many times he defended his then-bogus WBO title...means sh*t. It's who you beat and when you do it.
Hamed doesn't qualify. Sadly, if he kept fighting, he might've.
john>marquez>barrera>hamed
chris john is the greatest featherweight of all time!!!!! :dance:
viva indonesia!!!!!
invalid triangle theory, there's 4 of them.
Defintly, 100 per cent agree with you. This is a pointless topic, anyone who says he doesnt belong in the HOF dont know shit.
I was hoping someone else would say that, because it is 100% true. There are much less accomplished fighters than Hamed in the HOF.
he's definitely HOFer.
for all those saying british HOF......those ain't no british titles he was holding. those were world titles from almost every org.
ain't he didn't whoop brits to get those belts.
Defintly, 100 per cent agree with you. This is a pointless topic, anyone who says he doesnt belong in the HOF dont know shit.
i'm so sick and tired of this marquez was ducked bullshit.
pacquiao offered him an immediate rematch. marquez camp turned it down.
morales offered him a fight. marquez camp turned it down.
marquez is the one that turns down fights and everyone makes it look like he's ducked and feared.
please......
Thats because the internet has create alot of dumbos.. I have nothing against JMM but nobody ducked him, His name was NO where when the big-names were around, I dont see or hear people say the like sof Naz ducked Freddie Norwood who was more well-known than JMM back in 1999-2001.