Could Pavlik had beaten Hopkins if B-Hop had one arm tied behind his back?

lol this thread is funny. If Bhop had one arm tied behind his back, he'd still be more unpredictable than if Pavlik had 4 arms. Not only that, he'd still punch from more angles than Pav would. Lol, true, Pavlik with four arms wouldnt be able to beat B-Hop.

Pavlik beats him in a rematch, with one of Pavliks arms tied around his back :D

Only if Hopkins couldnt throw the free hand. Pavlik would have to hit him to win, and I dont remember one clean shot landed all fight in the first go round.

lol this thread is funny. If Bhop had one arm tied behind his back, he'd still be more unpredictable than if Pavlik had 4 arms. Not only that, he'd still punch from more angles than Pav would.

Just a thought, hehehe :wave: no but he DOES beat him at HIS weight and not when he's taken out of the class he belongs.. that clearly wasn't the Pavlik we know, I mean c'mon I understand he was confused but damn man where the **** was the snap in his punches? where was his uppercut? where was his body shots? he threw punches that had no power and paid for it and that was cuz he never fought at that weight.. take it to Middleweight and Kelly takes it but Bernard knows this so much like his cock sucker boss he goes and takes smaller men from LOWER weight classes and brings them up to where they are no longer the same, wins due to that and then act like they did something. Hopkins did it with Wright and Pavlik, Oscar did it with Floyd and Pacquiao and Floyd even did it with Hatton.. they look for the best in smaller weights, not their own weights but smaller weights, to move up a big difference in pounds to weight they've probably never been and once there the weight affects them, regardless not everyone is a Mosley who can move up and do well so for most that weight increase would hurt, and it shows. I actually thought they sold the fight, maybe Hopkins, being the promoter he is, came up to Pavlik and said listen we'll do this at 170 so you'll keep your titles plus I'll give you 5 million in cash out of my pocket aside from the 3 you'll be making, just take it easy, sell it and make it look good and you'll walk away richer, I'll be more loved and you'll still rule your weight class.. tell me this, why else would Pavlik literally not throw his best shit, literally stop throwing with the intention to win and in the 12th staying in front of Hopkins without throwing and eating his shit.. that would make more sense to me than anything because it don't add up.

I voted No. Kelly Pavlik just has nothing for Bernard Hopkins! Bernard didn't even have to bring out his whole bag of tricks!

B-Hop outboxed a heavy hitter in Antwun with one hand for a round...Altough this was in his prime Good point, I remember that.