Let's all agree now. Calzaghe is an ATG.

The problem with this theory is that Hopkins could've easily potshotted Pavlik if he wanted to and still won. The fact that he didn't potshot and was commited to combination punching means Hopkins is looking to win decisively rather than looking to win narrowly. Styles make fights and Hopkins fought the wrong style against Calzaghe. A combination punching Hopkins can beat Calzaghe. Yes he could have but he didn't need to. He could dominate him comfortably, which he did. The point you are missing is that Calzaghe would never have allowed that to happen and was the one who dictated the pace - which ultimately decided the fight as Hopkins couldn't cope with it. A more aggressive Hopkins was simply never an option against Calzaghe - as someone with a modicum of boxing knowledge, like Hopkins, knew. The trick to beating Calzaghe is to make him come forward and Hopkins almost did it well enough to get the W. Almost.

We might as well put Sven Ottke in the HOF too. If Joe gets in then so does Sven. Bollocks! Poor boxing knowledge there, clearly.

Its blasphemous for you to include that fraudsters name in the same sentence with DelaHoya and Ali,he's not worth to tie both of them's shoes http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/Bush_ORLY.jpg I'll let you in on a secret: You're stupid.

calzaghe was king of the 168 division. thats like being king of a landfill. What a total cock. I dont like Calzone but your a dick.

Associated Press, Yahoo, and ESPN scored the bout 114-113 for Hopkins Yahoo did eSPN had it Calzone, who clearly won dont need press row ya do have eyes blood?

theres a lot of fighters in the HOF.... few are actuall all time greats I wish i could respond to your post properly mate but am a bit pissed, and you avatar is making me LMAO!!!

he's a great fighter, but not an All Time Great fighter imo

I see things differently through the eyes of Tia Maria. theres a lot of fighters in the HOF.... few are actuall all time greats

u realize of course... ATG>HOF I see things differently through the eyes of Tia Maria.

I look at it like this. In the hall of fame there's a table were the HOF fighters sit while the ATG fighters serve them drinks. Roy Jones is a HOF fighter, Joe Calzaghe is the ATG serving Roy drinks and getting tipped by Roy accordingly. u realize of course... ATG>HOF

I look at it like this. In the hall of fame there's a table were the HOF fighters sit while the ATG fighters serve them drinks. Roy Jones is a HOF fighter, Joe Calzaghe is the ATG serving Roy drinks and getting tipped by Roy accordingly.

Ok. You're entitled to your opinion. http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/understand/Understand-Darth_Vader.jpg I don't hear you talk when you type. But thanks for being an idiot. In any case, Hopkins is 43. And there a plenty of people who suggested that Pavlik was overrated and certainly would NOT beat Calzaghe. Actually, I thought he'd lose to Joe and beat Hopkins. Guess he's even worse than I thought.

That homo didnt beat BHop for starters,he got a gift.Roy will knock him out then B Hop will school Roy.That homo doesnt want BHop anywhere near him now coz he knows he will be exposed I guess in your mind DLH lost to Sturm and Ali to Norton as well?

Hopkins is a sure fire ATG and a legend for a reason... Calzaghe is no where near that....still....and he even beat Hopkins. Calzaghe you want to be great.... Beat Roy. Beat Dawson. Beat Hopkins again. Til then hes a nobody with a good workrate. Ok. You're entitled to your opinion. Agreed. Not shot at all. Just 43 http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/understand/Understand-Darth_Vader.jpg

on top of that, joe calzaghe just said pavlik is a bum and overhyped, so really beating him especially at 170 means nothing... according to joe

its funny when you have to try and debate whether or not hes an ATG put it like this... no one questiones whether or not ray leonard was an all time great or not nobody debates wether ali was an all time great or not nobody polls whether whitaker was an all time great or not if you have to discuss it, debate it... then he still has more to prove I say this all the time. No one gets it........ But hey, they can waste there time in begging for people to beleive. Its cool.

haha. nice. Classic!

its funny when you have to try and debate whether or not hes an ATG put it like this... no one questiones whether or not ray leonard was an all time great or not nobody debates wether ali was an all time great or not nobody polls whether whitaker was an all time great or not if you have to discuss it, debate it... then he still has more to prove

No triangles here. It means that the 43 year old fighter Joe defeated wasn't shot at all. Agreed. Not shot at all. Just 43

he is only an atg in his home cuz they aint got anyone, but in reality he is jus your average joe.