Is it time for Pavlik to get a new trainer?

Wow a productive discussion here! Chime in people. :boxing:

bring in someone else in addition. lowe is good for some things, and kelly is comfortable with him, but it's obvious he needs more help.

I think he should at least bring in someone else to take over main training duties, but replacing Loew wouldn't be a bad idea, as Tengoshi said, Loew doesn't do good work in the corner, the advice from him is pretty basic, double jab right hand, jab right hand etc. Miguel Diaz gives better advice in the corner. Agreed as usual.

I think he should at least bring in someone else to take over main training duties, but replacing Loew wouldn't be a bad idea, as Tengoshi said, Loew doesn't do good work in the corner, the advice from him is pretty basic, double jab right hand, jab right hand etc. Miguel Diaz gives better advice in the corner.

As a cornerman Loew is terrible, as I've frequently said. Regardless of whether he replaces Loew he needs a better voice in command in his corner, especially given his relative inexperience as a fighter. Right, to me Pavlik is a guy who looks to his corner moreso than adjust on his own in the ring so I think whoever is in the corner would matter alot to what he does. Loews advice tonight was double the fing jab?! What? lol

and moved out of Youngstown. Kelly will never leave here and why would he? His fans and community love him. He loves them back equally and has been a great asset to his community. To tell him to move out is like telling a zebra to lose his stripes.

As a cornerman Loew is terrible, as I've frequently said. Regardless of whether he replaces Loew he needs a better voice in command in his corner, especially given his relative inexperience as a fighter.

While I'm not making ANY excuses to undermind Hops brilliant performance tonight, Kelly was clearly not prepared for Hopkins. I think it would be in his best interest, if not to replace him, to get some added variables in trainers and maybe some specialists. I just don't think, as you said, Jack has the tools to take Kelly to "that" level.

yes and no If he only wants to 1-2 more time keep him if wants to progress and stasy in boxing for 3-7 fights get a new trainer and moved out of Youngstown.