you guys are assholes saying vargas was not the same after Trinidad, he wasn't the same after the BACK PROBLEMS, he knocked out wilfredo rivera right after the trinidad fight and jose flores 2 solid fighters
I will never believe that from what I have seen from both fighters. I don't see how you came up with that one. Please give detailed explanation because I just don't how you came to that conclusion.
You can believe what you want. In my opinion if you do not see that then you simply do not want to see it.
Vargas may have been the faster guy but definitely not more skilled... never.
Cotto's power is not on the level of Oscar, and Cintron's accuracy is less than stellar. Cintron crowded his punches, and never really got full power behind them, but that is besides the point. Cintron is a one punch KO guy. If he can't KO you, he is ****ed. Look what Jesse Faliciano did to him...
The simple fact of the matter is this. If you let Oscar tee off on your face with left hooks, you are getting stopped. I don't care who you are.
Sure it isnt,,,
Iron chin, amazing workrate, amazing stamina, punches from all sorts of angles, the fact that the year is 2008 and not 2002.
i agree with that.
but I think vargas punches harder and has better handspeed.
cotto and cintron had also great hooks and couldnt stun margarito even once
Cotto's power is not on the level of Oscar, and Cintron's accuracy is less than stellar. Cintron crowded his punches, and never really got full power behind them, but that is besides the point. Cintron is a one punch KO guy. If he can't KO you, he is ****ed. Look what Jesse Faliciano did to him...
The simple fact of the matter is this. If you let Oscar tee off on your face with left hooks, you are getting stopped. I don't care who you are.
Vargas though an ok guy..... was always an overhyped fighter. Margarito is, believe it or not a better schooled fighter than Vargas, he has better fundamentals, and he has workman like rate, I also believe Margarito's power is better. Also Vargas was always a fat welterweight while Margarito is a lean one.
I will never believe that from what I have seen from both fighters. I don't see how you came up with that one. Please give detailed explanation because I just don't how you came to that conclusion.
Tony could have vacated. Truth be told, he was at the end of his TopRank contract. Goosen and crew offered a little more money for the Williams fight. Arum was furious and sued because the Cotto fight was already signed. Ultimately it all worked out. Tony fought Williams and lost a close competitive fight. I'd much rather see a Williams/Margarito rematch than a Cotto/Margarito rematch. I think Williams/Margarito moves the sport on a bit more than a Cotto rematch.
Yeah this is exactly how it all happened, People seem to twist the truth in saying Margarito could have vacate is belt and gone after cotto.
Margarito in truth couldnt have vacate is belt for a lower payday (against cotto) and another 5 fights contract with Bob Arum.
Cotto ruined Quintana
and he even manage to school williams!!!
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but williams reddeem him self with quintana soo...
ok.. im out..
:boxing: :lol1: i love boxing!
You are one delirious lil mexican.
If Tony "ruined" Williams..He sure did a shitty job because Williams DESTROYED Quintana in 60 seconds...damn fool.
Paul "La Migra" Williams has Tony running like a scalded dog.
He even turned down a ONE fight 4 million dollar offer to rematch Williams.
Cotto ruined Quintana
what does Antonio Margarito bring to the table that a juiced up Fernando Vargas didn't vs Oscar De La Hoya?
lots of things...
chin
stamina
chin
stamina...
did i mention CHIN & STAMINA!!!!
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what does Antonio Margarito bring to the table that a juiced up Fernando Vargas didn't vs Oscar De La Hoya?
A chin. 100 punches per round. No bad back..and Margo used to spar with Dela.